Newcastle Fan Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I didn't realise we are that close in the table to those fighting relegation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Okay, if I agree that Spurs have to already be a PL team when it happens. If not no bet, he'd get them up to that level imo so they're just as relevant. Spurs don't deserve to be categorised with those clubs. They've won less league titles than Huddersfield ffs. The gist of the bet was based on that he wouldn't get a bigger job than Newcastle United next. Spurs isn't a bigger job than Newcastle. They finished 17th last season and are 18th this season. They are relegation battlers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: We won't appoint Southgate next man. Come on ffs Rosenior was an appointment of convenience with the ownership situation. He'll be gone in the summer. Tudor was a strange one but he'd managed big clubs before Spurs, Galatasaray, Marseille, Lazio and Juventus, albeit with little success. Still don't think you're getting the point. The fan's don't get to choose the manager. You have no idea who the options are going to be. You might not like them and it could be as shocking as a Southgate or a Tudor. You have no say in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo_11 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 If ever a game summed up our season, ironically it would be the 3rd round v Bournemouth this season. - mistake from Livramento - several players making individual errors - conceding an equaliser in last minute of the match I think it's quite clear we've been well on a handful of occasions this season, this video has been the norm throughout and for that you have to question the players and coaching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Just now, Wallsendmag said: Spurs don't deserve to be categorised with those clubs. They've won less league titles than Huddersfield ffs. The gist of the bet was based on that he wouldn't get a bigger job than Newcastle United next. Spurs isn't a bigger job than Newcastle. They finished 17th last season and are 18th this season. They are relegation battlers. Spurs are in the big 6 for a reason, they have the financial clout to win the league, they just haven't. That's why they should be included and I've said they need to be a PL team when it happens. I'll go one better, if he goes to Spurs, he also has to get CL for the bet to count. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 minute ago, dcmk said: Still don't think you're getting the point. The fan's don't get to choose the manager. You have no idea who the options are going to be. You might not like them and it could be as shocking as a Southgate or a Tudor. You have no say in it. I'm aware that I don't decide who our next manager is ffs I'm also telling you it won't be Gareth Southgate though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Just now, Wallsendmag said: I'm aware that I don't decide who our next manager is ffs I'm also telling you it won't be Gareth Southgate though You can't be 100% sure though. Stranger appointments have happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 6 minutes ago, Newcastle Fan said: I didn't realise we are that close in the table to those fighting relegation We're closer to a Champions League place than a relegation place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Spurs are in the big 6 for a reason, they have the financial clout to win the league, they just haven't. That's why they should be included and I've said they need to be a PL team when it happens. I'll go one better, if he goes to Spurs, he also has to get CL for the bet to count. They don't have the financial clout though. They can't do what the Manchester clubs, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal can do. They need to sell their stars to finance new signings. Berbatov, Carrick, Modric, Bale, Kane, these are all players who teams with genuine title ambitions build teams around, not cash in on to fund other signings. They aren't at the level of the genuine big 5, and the trophy count backs that up. Edited April 13 by Wallsendmag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 4 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: I'm aware that I don't decide who our next manager is ffs I'm also telling you it won't be Gareth Southgate though Where's your confidence coming from ? He's a former England manager who was in many people eyes, a massive success in role. Hope you enjoy him when he gets the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: There's one Man United fan who would tell you to ignore that forum and listen to him... Howe probably still my third or fourth choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Just now, Robster said: Where's your confidence coming from ? He's a former England manager who was in many people eyes, a massive success in role. Hope you enjoy him when he gets the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Just now, Froggy said: Howe probably still my third or fourth choice. Who's number 1 & 2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: They don't have the financial clout though. They can't do what the Manchester clubs, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal can do. They need to sell their stars to finance new signings. Berbatov, Carrick, Modric, Bale, Kane, these are all players who teams with genuine title ambitions build teams around, not cash in on to fund other signings. They aren't at the level of the genuine big 5, and the trophy count backs that up. Suit yourself...chicken. Edited April 13 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Suit yourself...chicken. If we can't agree on whether NUFC to Spurs is a step up or a step down for Eddie Howe then it won't work. No chance I'm grouping Spurs in with Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 minute ago, Holmesy said: Who's number 1 & 2? Luis Enrique obviously the standout choice. Nagelsmann would be interesting. If all else fails, just give me Ole back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, andycap said: Imagine if city just went to the first manager that got champions league and a cup victory that'll do we cannot do any better. Man City were allowed to throw endless money at the problem, surely you're not this daft? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 9 minutes ago, Interpolic said: Man City were allowed to throw endless money at the problem, surely you're not this daft? I'm talking about the fans mentality to it. We have to keep Hughes pellegrini or whoever it was at the time because of the cup victory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) 2 hours ago, andycap said: Too many members in here just settling for mediocrity and watching the club slowly go back to the way it was before the Saudis took over the club. Just accepting losses to dross home and away, accepting piss poor football and terrible man management of assets at the club, All because he won us a cup. Imagine if city just went to the first manager that got champions league and a cup victory that'll do we cannot do any better. There's a bit more to it than that like. You can think Howe isn't tge future without doing him a complete disservice. Edited April 13 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: There's a bit more to it than that like. Agree with this mind. Keeping us up in his first season was arguably a more difficult task than winning the Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 7 minutes ago, andycap said: I'm talking about the fans mentality to it. We have to keep Hughes pellegrini or whoever it was at the time because of the cup victory. The mentality is dictated by the realistic alternatives, the realistic alternatives are dictated by our artificially imposed financial restrictions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) I love it how all of the chat in the transfer thread is about how we need to be creative and go to untapped markets and recruit players with potential where we can maximise value and not just go for premier league proven. And then come in here and the only names that get mentioned as potential Howe successors are the premier league proven ones. Quite the juxtaposition. Edited April 13 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 14 minutes ago, andycap said: I'm talking about the fans mentality to it. We have to keep Hughes pellegrini or whoever it was at the time because of the cup victory. Even Bournemouth have gone way past what the fans could imagine with Howe. I bet at the time they thought they couldn’t do better considering what he had done for the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 5 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: The mentality is dictated by the realistic alternatives, the realistic alternatives are dictated by our artificially imposed financial restrictions. Whilst these restrictions are in place and have hampered us we've hardly acted like Paupers. We've still been able to spend £750m on new players since 2022. I doubt there's many other clubs been able to spend more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I don’t have much to back Howe right now but I’d bloody love it if he was allowed time to turn this around and succeeds. Some people always think the grass is greener with change, it might but doesn’t always work that way, I fact it might get a whole lot worse. A new manager will also need time, have not much of a budget to work with either in what might be a difficult summer to do deals with the World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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