huss9 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 4 minutes ago, Astroblack said: Would Bournemouth be where they are now without Eddie Howe’s appointments in 2008 and 2012? Are you seriously saying Eddie Howe had no influence on Bournemouth becoming the team they are in 2026 without Eddie Howe? he got them to a certain level, and then they kicked on under someone else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 We look one of the worst teams in the league. Next year could easily see us going the same way as spurs have by keeping howe in charge. Spurs problems have been there a while and now they look like they could go down after recently qualifying for champions leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Astroblack said: Would Bournemouth be where they are now without Eddie Howe’s appointments in 2008 and 2012? Are you seriously saying Eddie Howe had no influence on Bournemouth becoming the team they are in 2026 without Eddie Howe? When have I said anything like that ? Eddie Howe is a Bournemouth legend. He transformed the club beyond their wildest dreams. But he was also in charge when they got relegated and they’ve achieved more in the PL post-Howe than they did during his time there. Something to consider for all of the people who think an NUFC without Howe is doomed to fail. Maybe it will fail, maybe it wont. But using Bournemouth as an example, it actually got better post-Howe. And that takes nothing away from what he achieved in his time there, which was magnificent. Edited April 25 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 6 minutes ago, Holmesy said: You seem to be conveniently forgetting he also got Bournemouth relegated after failing to turn it around. He absolutely does not always turn it around. If you take a look at that season, the insane level of injuries and the teams they were putting out each week. You will see why they were relegated. Bad seasons happen, no matter who you are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Opening up this page of the thread first after being off the forum since the match ended Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Is this right? Is he the only manager to lose againt Arteta this season??? What. The. Fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, TBG said: Is this right? Is he the only manager to lose againt Arteta this season??? What. The. Fuck. The only opposition they have managed to score a set piece goal against anarl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, huss9 said: he got them to a certain level, and then they kicked on under someone else You think someone else could take us to a higher level? Who? We just got rejected by every player we tried to sign. We got rejected by Marc Guehi when we were going into a Champions League season. 48.7% win percentage. Iraola at Bournemouth is 36.6%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 For what it's worth (probably not a lot) the same bloke who posted the leaked XI says Eddie's away at the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Feel sad about how his tenure could be coming to an end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, dcmk said: If you take a look at that season, the insane level of injuries and the teams they were putting out each week. You will see why they were relegated. Bad seasons happen, no matter who you are. As I’ve said before, Rafa made us competitive in the PL with a team of largely championship players. If you can only play one way and can’t find a way to grind out results when injuries hit, you are a limited manager. Did he adapt the way they played that season to mitigate the injuries or did he keep playing exactly the same way with lesser players? I don’t even need to look up the answer and neither do you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianbeany Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, The Butcher said: For what it's worth (probably not a lot) the same bloke who posted the leaked XI says Eddie's away at the end of the season. Where did you see that mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 5 minutes ago, Pilko said: What will be will be in the summer, I think the thing we all agree on is that the squad needs some decent surgery and the addition of some technicians, flair, creatives, call it what you will, Eddie staying or Eddie going. The more of these performances I watch, the less faith I have that Eddie has any interest in doing so. I think the same stubbornness/headstrong belief that won us a cup and got us 2 CL campaigns will now continue to go the other way and regress us further because I do think he'll double down on more athletes and shite pacey wingers. He doesn't seem to be interested in trying to properly utilise our only creative attacker in Woltemade and he's now dropped one of our other more creative outlets in Hall after one bad game. We'll undoubtedly have a better league season than this shitter we've had but in the event we get Europe again it'll be the same struggle to manage the games if we rely on pressing and running so much rather than trying to control some games. We've heard a lot of talk about "learning" from him this year but no real evidence of it on the pitch and that worries me a lot. When I lens back from it I do actually admire the staunch take that you, dcmk and others take where you're backing him to the hilt, I just think each passing week we're seeing more evidence he's running of ideas, road and energy. Honestly I think the only change I've seen that could have a lasting impact is, for want of a better word, vibes. There are too many people with their knives out for him now and that's not only going to be incredibly difficult for him to turn around, but incredibly important to our success. If he manages to bring the positive energy back it may be his biggest achievement here. The entire season has been awful, with so many shitty moving parts, and it's really a test in faith, but I see it sort of like a captain that's sailed us expertly through steady waters and a couple of storms in the past sailing through a hurricane. Yes, a lot of his moves haven't been the best and he's partly responsible for the state the ship is in, but let him get back to port, make some repairs and canny upgrades and head back out again hoping the experience hasn't given him or us PTSD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Feel sad about how his tenure could be coming to an end. Yep, it alls feels very wrong. I was saying to a mate the other day that I wish last season was this season, and Howe takes the England job after the WC. Would have felt very right. This is awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 4 minutes ago, ianbeany said: Where did you see that mate? Twitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Yep, it alls feels very wrong. I was saying to a mate the other day that I wish last season was this season, and Howe takes the England job after the WC. Would have felt very right. This is awful. Totally grim. Just a sad situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 5 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Feel sad about how his tenure could be coming to an end. Whilst I agree, do we really think it is? Is the club really looking to replace him? Somehow I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 minutes ago, Holmesy said: As I’ve said before, Rafa made us competitive in the PL with a team of largely championship players. If you can only play one way and can’t find a way to grind out results when injuries hit, you are a limited manager. Did he adapt the way they played that season to mitigate the injuries or did he keep playing exactly the same way with lesser players? I don’t even need to look up the answer and neither do you. That doesn't make much sense. Rafa went through poor form and poor seasons, when didn't have players available too. How did he do at Everton, did he find a way to make it work? His record at Bournemouth is something that I don't think Rafa could do, or any manager in the Premier League can do, and so quickly, aside from Pep. https://postimg.cc/7CMF7GcG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 10 minutes ago, The Butcher said: For what it's worth (probably not a lot) the same bloke who posted the leaked XI says Eddie's away at the end of the season Edited April 25 by lovejoy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, The Butcher said: Twitter. Was it Burnsie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, lovejoy said: Trippier thinks he’ll walk. Que? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Wouldn’t surprised me this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Honestly I think the only change I've seen that could have a lasting impact is, for want of a better word, vibes. There are too many people with their knives out for him now and that's not only going to be incredibly difficult for him to turn around, but incredibly important to our success. If he manages to bring the positive energy back it may be his biggest achievement here. The entire season has been awful, with so many shitty moving parts, and it's really a test in faith, but I see it sort of like a captain that's sailed us expertly through steady waters and a couple of storms in the past sailing through a hurricane. Yes, a lot of his moves haven't been the best and he's partly responsible for the state the ship is in, but let him get back to port, make some repairs and canny upgrades and head back out again hoping the experience hasn't given him or us PTSD. I get it - the sticking point for me is the nature of said repairs and upgrades. To continue your analogy, I feel like instead of making the ship more aerodynamic he'll just want burlier sailors rowing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianbeany Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Twitter. On the same account? I looked there but didn't see anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 12 minutes ago, The Butcher said: For what it's worth (probably not a lot) the same bloke who posted the leaked XI says Eddie's away at the end of the season. If we end up with Southgate, Mourinho, Potter or any other mediocre manager, hope people realise how good we had it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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