Eddie Howe

[Whitley mag]

If we get another Bournemouth performance on Saturday and results go similar to last weekend, we’ll be 5 points above the relegation zone with 3 to play.

 

The other teams will all have momentum and it’ll be hard not to fear the worst.

 

If he doesn’t get a performance out of them on Saturday it’s such fine margins now, we’d be undoubtedly the worst team in the league and in serious danger of relegation, the other teams will smell blood.

 

Saturday is arguably the biggest match in his time here, he could present the greatest PowerPoint ever to PIF at Matfen, but I think he could be in real trouble if things go badly on Saturday. We could be sleep walking into relegation if we get another no show on the beach performance.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 30 by Whitley mag

[Mills and Boon]

1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said:

Being a fan is also about not burying your head in the sand saying “everything will be OK”.

 

Most of the people being negative are concerned about a long run of consistent poor performances and questioning the future of the manager who has overseen that long run of consistent poor performances.

 

That doesn’t make someone any less of a fan than the ones who think Eddie Howe can definitely fix the problems and get us back on track. 

 

 

 

 

Nobody is burying their head in the sand. Everyone is concerned about our form, it's just that some are able to see a team sheet and not crumble into despair before a ball is even kicked. Or recognize that subs are made around the time subs are usually made by every team, and not make a big deal out of it.

 

I don't think anyone is less of a fan because they want Howe out. I don't really go for the whole ranking of fans or getting your ticket stubs out to play top trumps. I respect opinions if they hold up to the slightest of scrutiny, unfortunately a lot of the stuff getting said doesn't.

 

I have seen plenty of "Howe FC supporter" talk and there's no doubt that the people saying things like that think the people who want to give Howe time are lesser fans

[Kilcline]

1 hour ago, r0cafella said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7239771/2026/04/30/newcastle-data-eddie-howe-analysis/

 

For the nerds. 

Longer term, taken on a game-by-game basis, Kev Lawson suggests the data shows Newcastle have “contrived to lose games we should’ve drawn and drawn games we should’ve won” — hence the Premier League-high 25 points dropped from leading positions this season.

 

I've got no idea if the Athletic is now written for six-year-olds, "optimised for AI" or what, but this is a whole new level of No Shit Sherlock that anyone with eyes doesn't need data to tell them 

[TRon]

10 hours ago, 1881 said:

Unfortunately I think a vocal minority do and expect year-on-year progress/improvement as a result 

 

 

You will always have a vocal minority expressing all sorts of views. We missed out on Europe a couple of years ago but most fans accepted that as just a dip which often follows a CL campaign. I think if we were to fail to qualify for Europe this season, fans would be miffed, but could accept it as another blip if we had a campaign where we ever looked like being involved in a top 6 race.

 

This season has been a disaster in terms of results and form. That's why criticism is valid. 

[Tiotes Witch Doctor]

For the record I'm firmly in the Howe has taken us as far as he can camp but I would still love nothing more than him to succeed if he does get the chance to stay on in the summer, it's about the good of the football club at the end of the day.

[Tross]

2 minutes ago, Tiotes Witch Doctor said:

For the record I'm firmly in the Howe has taken us as far as he can camp but I would still love nothing more than him to succeed if he does get the chance to stay on in the summer, it's about the good of the football club at the end of the day.

 

This.

[Pixelphish]

2 hours ago, r0cafella said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7239771/2026/04/30/newcastle-data-eddie-howe-analysis/

 

For the nerds. 

@bobbydazzla

[bobbydazzla]

24 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said:

 

Nobody is burying their head in the sand. Everyone is concerned about our form, it's just that some are able to see a team sheet and not crumble into despair before a ball is even kicked. Or recognize that subs are made around the time subs are usually made by every team, and not make a big deal out of it.

 

I don't think anyone is less of a fan because they want Howe out. I don't really go for the whole ranking of fans or getting your ticket stubs out to play top trumps. I respect opinions if they hold up to the slightest of scrutiny, unfortunately a lot of the stuff getting said doesn't.

 

I have seen plenty of "Howe FC supporter" talk and there's no doubt that the people saying things like that think the people who want to give Howe time are lesser fans

 

There's definitely people burying their head in the sand like.

 

"It'll be alright once Wissa's back from injury, it'll be alright once Elanga gets going, it'll be alright once Bruno is back, it'll be alright once we're not playing multiple times a week, it'll be alright once Eddie has another transfer window, he's turned it around before he can turn it around again yadda yadda yadda"

 

At some point the vast majority of people will reach their own tipping point when their concerns outweigh their optimism.

 

For lots of people that tipping point has been reached and breached. You haven't reached yours yet. 

 

I've been generally optimistic or neutral and have encouraged people to be patient, but these last few performances and the way Howe has managed those performances have pushed me towards thinking we probably need a change. But it's still a close call for me and I can be swayed either way.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 30 by bobbydazzla

[jack j]

2 hours ago, Whitley mag said:

If we get another Bournemouth performance on Saturday and results go similar to last weekend, we’ll be 5 points above the relegation zone with 3 to play.

 

The other teams will all have momentum and it’ll be hard not to fear the worst.

 

If he doesn’t get a performance out of them on Saturday it’s such fine margins now, we’d be undoubtedly the worst team in the league and in serious danger of relegation, the other teams will smell blood.

 

Saturday is arguably the biggest match in his time here, he could present the greatest PowerPoint ever to PIF at Matfen, but I think he could be in real trouble if things go badly on Saturday. We could be sleep walking into relegation if we get another no show on the beach performance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

100/1 on bet 365 for us to go down

Get yourself a grand on it

[Whitley mag]

Just now, jack j said:

100/1 on bet 365 for us to go down

Get yourself a grand on it

Mugs game.

[Mills and Boon]

That's not burying your head in the sand. It's recognizing that things need to improve and looking for ways they can without having to sack the most successful manager we've had in ages.

 

Burying your head in the sand to me would be ignoring any mistakes made by Howe and acting like everything is going well. I don't think I've seen any of that

[bobbydazzla]

2 hours ago, r0cafella said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7239771/2026/04/30/newcastle-data-eddie-howe-analysis/

 

For the nerds. 

 

@Pixelphish

 

Fundamentally, all the models underscore the fundamental flaws at either end of the pitch that everyone who watches Newcastle is already fully aware of. Newcastle are not clinical enough in front of the opposition goal, while they have conceded far too many soft and sloppy goals, due to a combination of errors, bad luck and poor execution.

 

Like saying we've written a long article and crunched the financial numbers and been through all the in-depth banking data and the conclusion is that you're skint because you spend all your money on booze, cocaine and hookers.

 

 

[r0cafella]

6 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

@Pixelphish

 

Fundamentally, all the models underscore the fundamental flaws at either end of the pitch that everyone who watches Newcastle is already fully aware of. Newcastle are not clinical enough in front of the opposition goal, while they have conceded far too many soft and sloppy goals, due to a combination of errors, bad luck and poor execution.

 

Like saying we've written a long article and crunched the financial numbers and been through all the in-depth banking data and the conclusion is that you're skint because you spend all your money on booze, cocaine and hookers.

 

 

Funny you say this and this is exactly what companies do  

 

Look at a bunch of spreadsheets and analysis don't speak to a single human being and then have all the answers which usually boils down to either do it more or so it better. 

[bobbydazzla]

7 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said:

That's not burying your head in the sand. It's recognizing that things need to improve and looking for ways they can without having to sack the most successful manager we've had in ages.

 

Burying your head in the sand to me would be ignoring any mistakes made by Howe and acting like everything is going well. I don't think I've seen any of that

 

You're taking it literally.

 

Burying head in sand can be used in day to day chat to mean people not accepting the actual problem that exists and looking for excuses.

 

Is that the correct use of the phrase ? No.

Do people know what it's alluding to ? Yes.

[Miggys First Goal]

“We know you’re trying to prepare for the Brighton game, Eddie, and trying your best to avoid us getting relegated, but do you think you could come to Matfen Hall and try to convince us not to fire your arse.”

 

 

Edited April 30 by Miggys First Goal

[Ben]

31 minutes ago, jack j said:

100/1 on bet 365 for us to go down

Get yourself a grand on it

 

Worth a pund

[Mills and Boon]

24 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

You're taking it literally.

 

Burying head in sand can be used in day to day chat to mean people not accepting the actual problem that exists and looking for excuses.

 

Is that the correct use of the phrase ? No.

Do people know what it's alluding to ? Yes.

 

That doesn't make much sense to me. People aren't burying their head in the sand because they disagree that sacking the manager is the answer to our problems, no matter how you're using the phrase

[Froggy]

Here's a genuine question, mainly aimed at the Howe out folk...

 

Do you think he would thrive in a structure like Man City where the executives handle the major strategic decisions and recruitment is highly data driven to bring in players to fit his tactical style and system? A lot of the criticism around Howe seems to stem from the perception that he has too much control over transfers and key decisions, so I'm genuinely curious how people would think he would do in that sort of setup. 

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, Froggy said:

Here's a genuine question, mainly aimed at the Howe out folk...

 

Do you think he would thrive in a structure like Man City where the executives handle the major strategic decisions and recruitment is highly data driven to bring in players to fit his tactical style and system? A lot of the criticism around Howe seems to stem from the perception that he has too much control over transfers and key decisions, so I'm genuinely curious how people would think he would do in that sort of setup. 

Which Howe is probably the question it's a bit Jekyll and Hyde at the minute. 

 

Plus he still hasn't quite proven he can handle the schedule of elite clubs. 

[Ben]

2 minutes ago, Froggy said:

Here's a genuine question, mainly aimed at the Howe out folk...

 

Do you think he would thrive in a structure like Man City where the executives handle the major strategic decisions and recruitment is highly data driven to bring in players to fit his tactical style and system? A lot of the criticism around Howe seems to stem from the perception that he has too much control over transfers and key decisions, so I'm genuinely curious how people would think he would do in that sort of setup. 

 

Different dynamic at City though, they offer Pep the best of the best, Howe gets 3rd or 4th choices 

[Froggy]

Just now, Ben said:

Different dynamic at City though, they offer Pep the best of the best, Howe gets 3rd or 4th choices 

 

That's partly what I'm getting at.

 

[Froggy]

5 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Which Howe is probably the question it's a bit Jekyll and Hyde at the minute. 

 

Plus he still hasn't quite proven he can handle the schedule of elite clubs. 

 

He can't handle it? Or his squads can't. 

[Joe1984]

Just now, Froggy said:

 

He can't handle it? Or his squads can't. 

Him in fairness.

 

He apparently said with all the games there is no time to get the players training properly.

 

That would be every season at an elite club.

[r0cafella]

4 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

He can't handle it? Or his squads can't. 

I think that's a very difficult question to answer honestly. 

[Mole]

I have said this in other threads, but my biggest concern isn't transfers but how rigid he has been within a set structure and unwilling to deviate from this year. There were signs of this back in October/November to me and it is kept repeating itself ever since. When I started posting again last summer, all everyone kept saying is how most of the transfers were successes so now an actual team is in place to do that successfully I am genuinely not worried.

 

But when it comes to adapting to the players he has and finding the right solutions to any problems I do have grave concerns and I feel like he hasn't given me any evidence this year to suggest why I should have confidence in him to achieve that successfully.