Eddie Howe

[Gottlob]

28 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said:

On the Leazes plans that were shared a little while ago looks like we would be overlapping the area of the old and new stadium. 
 

 

I assume this wouldn’t be done over a summer so do we have an entire corner of the stadium out of commission for a season or so or would we have to play our games elsewhere?

 

Wouldn't we just keep that portion of the stadium and turn the seats around so that they're facing the other way?

[The College Dropout]

Our on-the-ball approach always has the same principles.

 

We attack via the wings and play very direct football. Never play with a 10 because we don't attack through the central lines. When we were linked with Pedro, then Etikite and then signed Woltemade I thought we intended to play 2 uptop more often and play more through the lines with a 10/9 type forward in there. Evidently not.

 

All of our midfielders have low pass completion rates. It's not that they can't pass but they are all encouraged to play percentage balls forward. Bruno and Tonali will play balls where our attackers won't be favourites but helps us get up the pitch and turn opposition. 

[gdm]

Doesn’t sound like he’s in favour of the big rebuild we are much needing. 

[nufcjmc]

I am hoping its a mix of downplaying expectations of ripping it up and starting again, we also dont know at this stage which first 11 regulars we 1 can peddle and 2 will attract bids high enough to let go. 

 

Also some of our signings may well be more to do with depth than needing to start straight away if Tino and Hall do stay for instance it may be younger development/competition than needing to start likewise if Schar goes its a backup to Thiaw etc. 

 

However I do think we do need a starting keeper, starting striker, starting RW and if Gordon a certainty then a starting LW so there is 4. If we allow Tonali to go then a starting specialist DM or midfielder also. 

[Chicken Dancer]

Yeah that doesn’t sound encouraging at all. If Gordon and Tonali/Tino leave we’re going to need at least 6 in. 

[The Bonk]

8 minutes ago, gdm said:

Doesn’t sound like he’s in favour of the big rebuild we are much needing. 

 

While I see where he's coming from and believe myself that continuity is needed, but when you bought players who were unable to adapt to your system, where does that leave us? We have a whole season of proof that change is needed and he's remaining steadfast that it's time that's needed more than anything for success to happen on the pitch? 

This could also be him feeding the journos some soft sound bites more than what's actually going to take place. 

 

 

[SteV]

14 minutes ago, gdm said:

Doesn’t sound like he’s in favour of the big rebuild we are much needing. 

He’s generally right in what he says though. Mass change, where you replace multiple players, is not really something you should be aiming for.

However, sometimes you don’t have any choice, and as Forest and the mackems have proved recently, it can be relatively successful.

[TRon]

I don't expect much change next season anyway. Our football was poor right from the start of the season, I think results might improve somewhat next time round with no Europe, but I think we will probably be around mid-table again. 

 

 

[Mikky]

3 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said:

Yeah that doesn’t sound encouraging at all. If Gordon and Tonali/Tino leave we’re going to need at least 6 in. 

2- If Gordon and Tino leave 

1 - Trippier leaving 

1 - no left back cover 

1 - Ramsdale going 

1 - Willock HAS to go 

1 - J Murphy HAS to go 

1 - 1 forward HAS to go 

1 - Schar likely going 

 

Thats the mess we are in and the level of overhaul we need - it’s big 

[Mikky]

1 minute ago, TRon said:

I don't expect much change next season anyway. Our football was poor right from the start of the season, I think results might improve somewhat next time round with no Europe, but I think we will probably be around mid-table again. 

 

 

Change in terms of style? If we are as inflexible as we are currently we’ll finish mid table for sure - I just can’t escape this anxiety that I have regarding next season - only the summer can change this view 

[Kimbo]

So how many new players is a perfect amount to him, 2-4? You’ll always have a couple of positions that need improving, then some players will leave, some players are simply failures, some players get old. Sometimes you need a refresh. The number of players we brought in last summer had nothing to do with how poor the season went.

[TRon]

3 minutes ago, Mikky said:

Change in terms of style? If we are as inflexible as we are currently we’ll finish mid table for sure - I just can’t escape this anxiety that I have regarding next season - only the summer can change this view 

 

 

I think we will play the same way, maybe try to recruit a different striker to make it work better. Maybe someone like Jackson. 

[mouldy_uk]

6 minutes ago, TRon said:

I don't expect much change next season anyway. Our football was poor right from the start of the season, I think results might improve somewhat next time round with no Europe, but I think we will probably be around mid-table again. 

 

 

I’d be slightly more optimistic than that.
 

After a poor season we are only two wins away from 6th. Take away European football next season and I think we will easily break top six (regardless of our limited style)

[nufcjmc]

10 minutes ago, Mikky said:

2- If Gordon and Tino leave 

1 - Trippier leaving 

1 - no left back cover 

1 - Ramsdale going 

1 - Willock HAS to go 

1 - J Murphy HAS to go 

1 - 1 forward HAS to go 

1 - Schar likely going 

 

Thats the mess we are in and the level of overhaul we need - it’s big 

While I agree a big reset is needed I dont see us getting 7/8/9 in one window.

 

If we dont get europe it may be we retain Schar possibly, we may consider a utility defender to provide cover to more than one of the back 4 instead of signing 2 (risky as it may seem), pope stays for his final 12 months and we sign 1 keeper, Willock and Murphy are in their final year I think come the summer I see us retaining 1 of them unfortunately 

 

I think it will be 4 first team starters and 2 or 3 development young lads who are here with the first team getting limited mins like Hall a couple of seasons ago (except cheaper). 

 

Come the 2027/28 season we will have pope, BDB, willock and murphy (if still here) out of contract and Bruno/Barnes/Joelinton on their final 12 months if not extended so its not going to slow down in terms of needing to keep churning players. 

 

 

Edited May 6 by nufcjmc

[The Bonk]

6 minutes ago, SteV said:

He’s generally right in what he says though. Mass change, where you replace multiple players, is not really something you should be aiming for.

However, sometimes you don’t have any choice, and as Forest and the mackems have proved recently, it can be relatively successful.

 

Brentford are 6 points a head of us and lost 3 of their best players and head coach. They bought well, just as many as us, who feature regularly in their first 11. 

 

I think I'd rather he say "if we sell Bruno, we're as fucked as the results showed losing 4 in a row"
 

[Wolfcastle]

Only envisaged either a big rebuild or a new manager shifting us out of the mediocrity we've lodged ourselves in.  Little change and more of the same is no good for anybody.

[The Bonk]

15 minutes ago, nufcjmc said:

While I agree a big reset is needed I dont see us getting 7/8/9 in one window.

 

If we dont get europe it may be we retain Schar possibly, we may consider a utility defender to provide cover to more than one of the back 4 instead of signing 2 (risky as it may seem), pope stays for his final 12 months and we sign 1 keeper, Willock and Murphy are in their final year I think come the summer I see us retaining 1 of them unfortunately 

 

I think it will be 4 first team starters and 2 or 3 development young lads who are here with the first team getting limited mins like Hall a couple of seasons ago (except cheaper). 

 

Come the 2027/28 season we will have pope, BDB, willock and murphy (if still here) out of contract and Bruno/Barnes/Joelinton on their final 12 months if not extended so its not going to slow down in terms of needing to keep churning players. 

 

 

 

 

Mike Ashley ownership levels of doom on here if this happens.  

[Robster]

2 minutes ago, The Bonk said:

 

Mike Ashley ownership levels of doom on here if this happens.  

Feels like we are not far from that right now tbh, if you read this thread.

[The Bonk]

 @Robster the last 2 months, absolutely. I blame Howe for setting unrealistic expectations and actually winning us a trophy last year. 

[nufcjmc]

5 minutes ago, Robster said:

Feels like we are not far from that right now tbh, if you read this thread.

I think the league season has been bad and not wanting to start the whole has it really debate or mitigation debate for the hundredth time it would concern me if the club thinks the summer signings having this rocky season will suddenly make them great next season mixed with the emergence of Osula as a viable option means there isnt alot to do other than a keeper and replace the out of contract players. 

 

The club havent said that anywhere maybe reports of sell to buy maybe or 1 in 1 out but we all know this team doesnt need a minor tinker to get it back on track, how broken it is and how to solve it and what you can kick down the road another 12 months may be the starting point really. 

[black_n_white]

44 minutes ago, Mikky said:

2- If Gordon and Tino leave 

1 - Trippier leaving 

1 - no left back cover 

1 - Ramsdale going 

1 - Willock HAS to go 

1 - J Murphy HAS to go 

1 - 1 forward HAS to go 

1 - Schar likely going 

 

Thats the mess we are in and the level of overhaul we need - it’s big 

Tino I think won’t leave now, he has hall and burn left back cover plus targett if he sticks around. Willock does not have to go, Murphy does not have to go, 1 forward does not have to go and Schar might stay another year yet.

 

I agree Gordon will be replaced as will Ramsdale. Probably can see another defender for Trippier and forward coming in but that’s it.

 

 

Edited May 6 by black_n_white

[Mikky]

29 minutes ago, nufcjmc said:

While I agree a big reset is needed I dont see us getting 7/8/9 in one window.

 

If we dont get europe it may be we retain Schar possibly, we may consider a utility defender to provide cover to more than one of the back 4 instead of signing 2 (risky as it may seem), pope stays for his final 12 months and we sign 1 keeper, Willock and Murphy are in their final year I think come the summer I see us retaining 1 of them unfortunately 

 

I think it will be 4 first team starters and 2 or 3 development young lads who are here with the first team getting limited mins like Hall a couple of seasons ago (except cheaper). 

 

Come the 2027/28 season we will have pope, BDB, willock and murphy (if still here) out of contract and Bruno/Barnes/Joelinton on their final 12 months if not extended so its not going to slow down in terms of needing to keep churning players. 

 

 

 

If you consider potentially Dayyan Methaelie as “developmental”  then I am all in for 2/3 of these 

 

LB - RB - CB can be this - £12-15m players - hasn’t done Bournemouth any harm 

 

 

[Mikky]

2 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

Tino I think won’t leave now, he has hall and burn left back cover plus targett if he sticks around. Willock does not have to go, Murphy does not have to go, 1 forward does not have to go and Schar might stay another year yet.

 

I agree Gordon will be replaced as will Ramsdale. Probably can see another defender and forward coming in but that’s it.

 

 

 

Willock and Murphy have to go - they are not offering anything - at some point you have to extract some money from these type of players - why keep them? What are they offering? 

 

I swear if Willock and Murphy are here next season then I give up - sick of watching them both now 

 

Burn - LB - no thanks - we need to move away from this concept he can cover LB at 34 hours 

 

 

[black_n_white]

1 minute ago, Mikky said:

Willock and Murphy have to go - they are not offering anything - at some point you have to extract some money from these type of players - why keep them? What are they offering? 

 

I swear if Willock and Murphy are here next season then I give up - sick of watching them both now 

 

Burn - LB - no thanks - we need to move away from this concept he can cover LB at 34 hours 

 

 

Why force them out when we have other pressing issues? Historically we've not been great at selling either. All this talk of a rebuild is fantasy stuff, it’ll be 5 maybe 6 in at most with 3 or 4 leaving

[nufcjmc]

24 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

Tino I think won’t leave now, he has hall and burn left back cover plus targett if he sticks around. Willock does not have to go, Murphy does not have to go, 1 forward does not have to go and Schar might stay another year yet.

 

I agree Gordon will be replaced as will Ramsdale. Probably can see another defender for Trippier and forward coming in but that’s it.

 

 

 

Targett out of contract come the summer so won't be back. Even if BDB is a LB cover he also has to cover for botman regular break downs and is out of contract in 12 months its not a long term fix. 

 

We were linked to dayann methalie in jan but he got injured so maybe one we revist?

 

 

Edited May 6 by nufcjmc