Eddie Howe

[KetsbaiaIsBald]

This is the form table for the last 11 match days (some teams are on 10 games as it does not include todays and Mondays games). 
 

 

To say our form is inconsistent is giving us a little bit too much credit.  Based off the last 11 games it’s near relegation form LDDLLWWLDDL. 
 

I’m still not quite in the Howe out camp but given our squad, lack of injuries, no European football this is incredibly poor. 

 

[Menace]

"Still only 6 points from europe though"

[SUPERTOON]

4 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said:

This is the form table for the last 11 match days (some teams are on 10 games as it does not include todays and Mondays games). 
 

 

To say our form is inconsistent is giving us a little bit too much credit.  Based off the last 11 games it’s near relegation form LDDLLWWLDDL. 
 

I’m still not quite in the Howe out camp but given our squad, lack of injuries, no European football this is incredibly poor. 

 

Considering how bad West Ham and Leicester are, it’s pretty damming to be below them.

[Menace]

Palace being above us is in that table is hilarious - they are fucking woeful.

[cubaricho]

Y’all just finding things to shank Eddie with now.  

[et tu brute]

1 minute ago, Menace said:

Palace being above us is in that table is hilarious - they are fucking woeful.

And yet should have beat us comfortably last week

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, cubaricho said:

Y’all just finding things to shank Eddie with now.  

Looking at the form table and discussing poor form is finding something to shank a manager with now ?

[Menace]

Just now, cubaricho said:

Y’all just finding things to shank Eddie with now.  

 

I don't think the results of 11 games out of 15 that we have played being relegation fodder is "finding things" personally. The performances have been present on the pitch. We are shit.

[Geogaddi]

I always remember that Luton away game this time last year because of how bad we were .We created nothing and were beaten by an awful team. It was blamed on injuries at the time but literally so many of our away performances since then have been a carbon copy of that game and nothing is changing . In fact it's getting worse as we have now started playing like that at home to the lesser teams as well.

[KetsbaiaIsBald]

3 minutes ago, Menace said:

"Still only 6 points from europe though"

I think this is what is stopping him from being under real pressure.  The middle of the league table is so flat so we could easily move up if we did hit a bit of form. Also getting lucky points early  in the season has given us a points buffer from the relegation zone. 

[Lush Vlad]

Now I know how Usher felt when he sang Burn  

 

 

[Ben]

The next 5 games are all winnable, see where we are after them.

[ExiledGeordie]

23 minutes ago, Ben said:

The next 5 games are all winnable, see where we are after them.

I think the next 3 games are huge for him

[Jordan]

Things have gone stale but I think the clubs as much at fault as Howe is. We haven’t backed him in a window for a year and the squad is still largely made up of players who were rightfully bottom of the league when he took over. 

[ExiledGeordie]

1 minute ago, Jordan said:

Things have gone stale but I think the clubs as much at fault as Howe is. We haven’t backed him in a window for a year and the squad is still largely made up of players who were rightfully bottom of the league when he took over. 

Agreed squad has definitely gone stale and it’s unbalance too 

[gjohnson]

2 minutes ago, Jordan said:

Things have gone stale but I think the clubs as much at fault as Howe is. We haven’t backed him in a window for a year and the squad is still largely made up of players who were rightfully bottom of the league when he took over. 

Wasn't that exactly why he got so much plaudits? Dragging those players to CL and getting performances way above their level? Obviously they've aged, but things are definitely less than the sum of their parts now

[Scoot]

14 minutes ago, Jordan said:

Things have gone stale but I think the clubs as much at fault as Howe is. We haven’t backed him in a window for a year and the squad is still largely made up of players who were rightfully bottom of the league when he took over. 

 

Totally agree. We need a refresh. That will mean selling 1 or 2 big players but unfortunately it'll have to happen as we cannot continue like this.

[ExiledGeordie]

Just now, Scoot said:

 

Totally agree. We need a refresh. That will mean selling 1 or 2 big players but unfortunately it'll have to happen as we cannot continue like this.

I wouldn’t be that bothered if Bruno was sold next summer, he’s replaceable 

[TheBrownBottle]

17 minutes ago, Jordan said:

Things have gone stale but I think the clubs as much at fault as Howe is. We haven’t backed him in a window for a year and the squad is still largely made up of players who were rightfully bottom of the league when he took over. 

If the stories are true that Howe has refused to allow sales of players, then he's at fault on that front too.  The squad is definitely not mostly made up of players who were bottom of the league - Pope, Vlachodimas; Trippier, Livramento, Burn, Botman, Hall, Targett, Kelly, Murphy; Bruno, Tonali, Miley; Isak, Gordon, Barnes, Osula, all were bought by Howe (other than Miley, who came through the youth set up).  That's the majority of the squad, comfortably.  We're three years in - this is the manager's squad.  

[Superior Acuña]

1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said:

If the stories are true that Howe has refused to allow sales of players, then he's at fault on that front too.  The squad is definitely not mostly made up of players who were bottom of the league - Pope, Vlachodimas; Trippier, Livramento, Burn, Botman, Hall, Targett, Kelly, Murphy; Bruno, Tonali, Miley; Isak, Gordon, Barnes, Osula, all were bought by Howe (other than Miley, who came through the youth set up).  That's the majority of the squad, comfortably.  We're three years in - this is the manager's squad.  

Murphy was Rafa (but agree)

[Jordan]

13 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:

I wouldn’t be that bothered if Bruno was sold next summer, he’s replaceable 

I think we signed Tonali as his replacement last summer for this summer but obviously his ban fucked those plans as he didn’t get the year to bed in. 

[TRon]

1 hour ago, Ben said:

The next 5 games are all winnable, see where we are after them.

 

I imagine there will be more bad luck stories about missed chances and shock lapses in defending. But for that we'd have won comfortably etc. 

 

The reality is, that is the norm this season, and the good performances are the exception. We rarely put in a good 90 mins.

[lovejoy]

This slump is on Howe. It’s impossible to say otherwise. 
 

As I’ve said a few times, I love him, he’s been absolutely fantastic for us but this season so far is largely a shit show and that’s on him, there’s nowhere else for the buck to stop.

 

I’d love to see him fix it, I genuinely would , but I don’t think he will. I actually hope we move him on sooner rather than later to protect his reputation (which has undoubtedly risen massively since he took our job), as I think this will get worse.

 

Performing against the Liverpool’s and Arsenal’s and not against the likes of West Ham &, Fulham & Wolves (yes I know we won there, but it was poor) is an alarming sign from a coaching/management perspective.

 

its not so much the squad that’s gone stale (yes we need a rw and a centre half), it’s the coaching style and approach imo.

[Shearergol]

13 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:

I wouldn’t be that bothered if Bruno was sold next summer, he’s replaceable 

As a footballer I don’t disagree, but he’s the reason my love for the club came back so strongly. He’s the reason my son is obsessed with the club. I adore him, his passion, his energy, it looks like he bleeds black and white. In the modern game it’s really hard to find that, most players are at their club for their paycheck.

[The College Dropout]

12 hours ago, TRon said:

 

Howe's not going to get sacked this season, and I have said enough times that shouldn't happen. Even the CL spots are still up for grabs at this stage so in theory it can still all turn around.

 

But in my opinion with every shit team we drop points to, it becomes harder and harder to make Europe. We had a relatively easy start to the season, but we've performed badly. I expected us to be competing with Villa and Spurs for those European places, at this moment it looks like we are competing with Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham and Brighton as well. Then to make matters worse, when we play them we don't look better either.

Agreed.  I would add - we are fairly close to both Villa and Spurs who have both been inconsistent.