Eddie Howe

[Yorkie]

41 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

don’t agree on the ‘no credit in the bank’ line but there’s no question yesterday was absolutely terrible and his comms after it also did not capture the mood music very well imho

 

Really think there's absolutely nowt to be made of his post-match comments. He's said a million and one times that his whole philosophy is to not get too high and not get too low. It's one of his strengths so you needn't expect anything different. He's certainly never gonna come out and give it the "we were absolute shite" treatment that Bruce would do.

[El Prontonise]

2 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Really think there's absolutely nowt to be made of his post-match comments. He's said a million and one times that his whole philosophy is to not get too high and not get too low. It's one of his strengths so you needn't expect anything different. He's certainly never gonna come out and give it the "we were absolute shite" treatment that Bruce would do.

 

He's always going to be protective on his players, even more so after a game like that.  No issue with those comments.

[The College Dropout]

If we miss out on Europe - do people want him gone? And do you expect him gone if we don't get Europe?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

If we miss out on Europe - do people want him gone? And do you expect him gone if we don't get Europe?

 

Not this season, no. Gets the summer to revamp and go again. 

[The College Dropout]

5 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Not this season, no. Gets the summer to revamp and go again. 

This is where i'm at.

 

But I expect PIF to fire him if we don't qualify and we'll go back to also rans for awhile.

[Wallsendmag]

The "credit in the bank" argument is a strange one. He should forever have that because of what he's achieved here, delivering us our first domestic trophy in 70 years, and our first ever League Cup. However, just say for argument sake we lose our next 7 games, which would mean exiting both cups, I'd be in the camp where I think it's time for him to leave, but he'd still have plenty of credit in the bank.

 

We've spoken about holding onto players too long and not moving them on at the optimum time but the same can go for managers. I'd hate for things to carry on as they are and for the crowd to start turning on him, and it will happen if things continue as they are. I'd much rather the club grasped the nettle and acted before it got to that stage.

 

At the moment he looks all out of ideas and appears to have basically wasted the majority of our summer transfer budget. He can turn it around but this is certainly his most testing time as a manager since he was relegated with Bournemouth.

 

There's no room for sentiment in football. If results and performances don't improve in the next 4-6 weeks, out of the cups and Europe looking unlikely, it would probably be right that we look at other options.

 

He'd still leave as a club legend though.

[nufcjmc]

5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

If we miss out on Europe - do people want him gone? And do you expect him gone if we don't get Europe?

Depends no Europe but close i.e top 7 but 5th don't get champions league then no he gets time.

 

If we finish 10th say and no where near and going back to 1 game a week still dont help I would worry giving him funds to try again but would also have to involve who we can attract manager wise as a replacement.

 

Issue with having a long term manager its now Eddie's squad we cant afford to derail the project if thats what we are at this point to rip it up and start again.

[andyc35i]

He’s been let down by our recruitment infrastructure as we’ve missed out on many targets and then had to settle. We should be signing talented younger players and the Rogers of this world, but we clearly lacked the capability to do this properly over the last few years 

[GWN]

7 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Not this season, no. Gets the summer to revamp and go again. 

 

 

This, if you want him out then you can get to fook with me like. 

[HaydnNUFC]

12 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

If we miss out on Europe - do people want him gone? And do you expect him gone if we don't get Europe?

Or if he wins a bit of silverware again but I think I would tbh. But there’s plenty nuances to it. If we continue being so dreadful to watch and we miss out in addition then yes but only if we can guarantee a quality replacement. And there aren’t any out there currently, nor do I think the board have the nous to find the next Iraola/Glasner type from abroad especially given Howe had a role in choosing the sporting director. A very healthy way for a club to be run.  
 

I’m close to the end of my tether at present tbph but voted no in the poll as there’s no genuine upgrade out there so getting rid now would be pointless. And I don’t want him sacked, I want him to do well and to enjoy watching us play football.

 

 

Edited December 15, 2025 by HaydnNUFC

[Dokko]

3 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

The "credit in the bank" argument is a strange one. He should forever have that because of what he's achieved here, delivering us our first domestic trophy in 70 years, and our first ever League Cup. However, just say for argument sake we lose our next 7 games, which would mean exiting both cups, I'd be in the camp where I think it's time for him to leave, but he'd still have plenty of credit in the bank.

 

We've spoken about holding onto players too long and not moving them on at the optimum time but the same can go for managers. I'd hate for things to carry on as they are and for the crowd to start turning on him, and it will happen if things continue as they are. I'd much rather the club grasped the nettle and acted before it got to that stage.

 

At the moment he looks all out of ideas and appears to have basically wasted the majority of our summer transfer budget. He can turn it around but this is certainly his most testing time as a manager since he was relegated with Bournemouth.

 

There's no room for sentiment in football. If results and performances don't improve in the next 4-6 weeks, out of the cups and Europe looking unlikely, it would probably be right that we look at other options.

 

He'd still leave as a club legend though.

 

Credit in the bank applies to him staying though, not his legacy. 

[andyc35i]

1 minute ago, Wallsendmag said:

The "credit in the bank" argument is a strange one. He should forever have that because of what he's achieved here, delivering us our first domestic trophy in 70 years, and our first ever League Cup. However, just say for argument sake we lose our next 7 games, which would mean exiting both cups, I'd be in the camp where I think it's time for him to leave, but he'd still have plenty of credit in the bank.

 

We've spoken about holding onto players too long and not moving them on at the optimum time but the same can go for managers. I'd hate for things to carry on as they are and for the crowd to start turning on him, and it will happen if things continue as they are. I'd much rather the club grasped the nettle and acted before it got to that stage.

 

At the moment he looks all out of ideas and appears to have basically wasted the majority of our summer transfer budget. He can turn it around but this is certainly his most testing time as a manager since he was relegated with Bournemouth.

 

There's no room for sentiment in football. If results and performances don't improve in the next 4-6 weeks, out of the cups and Europe looking unlikely, it would probably be right that we look at other options.

 

He'd still leave as a club legend though.

I’m still backing him, but ask me again on Saturday night with two massive games coming up.
 

I’ve always said from the start that Howe is not going to bring us to the elite level we seemingly want to get to as much as I love the man. I wanted Emery all those years ago as he had the know how at the top level - although we’d probably be in the same place as now with him too

[mouldy_uk]

7 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

If we miss out on Europe - do people want him gone? And do you expect him gone if we don't get Europe?

If we don’t get Europe (in any form), and/or fail to make a significant cup run (final or winner), then I think he will be gone, unless there is some extenuating circumstances (e.g., serious injury crisis).
 

I absolutely don’t want him gone, but he needs to demonstrate that he can build and lead a squad that competes in multiple competitions simultaneously. We can’t write off every 2nd season because we have multiple games a week to play.

[Wallsendmag]

1 minute ago, Dokko said:

 

Credit in the bank applies to him staying though, not his legacy. 

 

I'm saying it shouldn't be used as an argument to whether he's sacked or not. Seen lot's of people saying because he won us the League Cup and got CL qualification x2 that he should get more time. I understand that but at the same time we shouldn't let things drag on longer than we should have if there's no signs of improvement.

[Dokko]

1 minute ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

I'm saying it shouldn't be used as an argument to whether he's sacked or not. Seen lot's of people saying because he won us the League Cup and got CL qualification x2 that he should get more time. I understand that but at the same time we shouldn't let things drag on longer than we should have if there's no signs of improvement.

 

I agree with everything you said, just clarifying the credit thing is down to whether he stays, not how he's remembered. He will leave a legend regardless what happens next, but right now, it's game to game on whether he's the man that takes us forward. For me anyway.

[The College Dropout]

8 minutes ago, mouldy_uk said:

If we don’t get Europe (in any form), and/or fail to make a significant cup run (final or winner), then I think he will be gone, unless there is some extenuating circumstances (e.g., serious injury crisis).
 

I absolutely don’t want him gone, but he needs to demonstrate that he can build and lead a squad that competes in multiple competitions simultaneously. We can’t write off every 2nd season because we have multiple games a week to play.

But do you want him gone?

Me - I don't think the squad is good enough. So he could finish 10th and I would want to keep him. Maybe even lower midtable.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

A manager should be kept or sacked based on whether we think he’s a good manager for us. That should be reviewed always but must be longer-term than whether he had a good or bad season. And must include all the off field factors as well, such as the Isak saga, strength of squad etc. 
 

Personally I would be more worried going with a new manager than going with Howe again. And it’s at least as risky giving money to a new manager before his first season than allowing Howe a few more signings. 
 

I don’t think expecting a manager to reinvent himself mid season is realistic, but giving him a summer to think, tweak and try again would be much more reasonable. 

 

 

Edited December 15, 2025 by AyeDubbleYoo

[Kanj]

I expect a great response by the squad on Wednesday, Saturday and boxing day like. Those who didn't "show up" for the match on the pitch will know very well the hurt that it caused and i back our leaders in Howe, JT, Jones and the leadership group to right that. 

[Theregulars]

Victim of his own success at the moment. 

[AJ9]

6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

But do you want him gone?

Me - I don't think the squad is good enough. So he could finish 10th and I would want to keep him. Maybe even lower midtable.

This is the correct answer. Though some of the failings re: squad could be placed on him (Elanga being the big one). We didn’t improve the starting 11. That’s criminal really, and the Isak thing has done long term damage. Can’t blame Howe for that, and I don’t see a manager getting a tune out of some of our players  in the same way he has. 

 

 

Edited December 15, 2025 by AJ9

[Yorkie]

Being consistently one of the best seven teams in the Premier League is extremely difficult; that we've managed to achieve it three seasons on the bounce (from the position we were in) is a brilliant achievement. Determining whether he stays or goes in the summer shouldn't be as binary as 'did we achieve it four times in a row or not;' I'd be considering more intangible metrics like: are the players still playing for him, how's the squad harmony, are we improving or regressing as a team, are we evolving, does he still fit in with the corporate structure? 

 

If, under Hopkinson, we're going to be a club which makes choices about it's management based exclusively on the result - i.e. CL qualification or not - then we might as well prepare our goodbyes, because it isn't happening this season, even if we end up a lot closer than we are now. I hope we don't become that; I don't want us to chop and change, chasing the dream.

[Pablo123]

I trust him to get it right, he has done so far. He's transformed the club from relegation certainties to CL. Be careful what you wish for, you Verruca Salt bastards. 

[wyn davies]

How lo g do we kick this can down the road?, give him money in january, to keep going till end of season and get into the lowest european comp, a few of our top players abandon ship for CL. give him more dough in the summer, for another season of mediocrity.

 

Get rid, only as good as his last job, plenty of managers whom are an improvemevt on him around, Xavi Alonso for one.

 

[KaKa]

33 minutes ago, Mattoon said:

We've got to play to our strengths, it's as basic and simple as that, we make chances by pressing aggressively and turning the ball over high up the pitch or by hitting our pacy wingers at speed from a low block. We don't have the players to build up slowly while the other team resets and trying to play our way through two banks of 4, it's not a mystery why we are so toothless.

 

Just go back to what works because even in 2023 with half the team out injured it was more enjoyable than this turgid lethargy.

 

Eddie needs to go back to the style of play we originally played under him, with far more energy and intensity.

 

I'm not convinced he is capable of coaching a more possession based style and he hasn't signed enough players capable of playing that way.

 

We have a much better guy in Bunce now that can help tailor training for that style of play so we hopefully don't suffer as much injury wise, and we also have more of a squad to help with that also, and should continue to build up the squad further so it's even stronger.

 

We just sit off teams way too much now and invite them into us and then struggle to play out from the back. He really needs to change things.

[Cf]

I think at this point it's clear our summer hasn't been great outside of Thiaw and Woltemade. 

 

Our season has been very stop start but for me there's mitigations. 

 

- Woltemade was brought in late and had to be thrown in at the deep end due to Wissa's injury. Then Osula got injured and now Woltemade is gassed. Lad needs a break and some time to bulk up. 

 

- Lack of time on the training pitch. Just a fact of life with this new CL structure but a lot of Howe's ability is maximising what he gets from players in training and he's just not had as much chance of that. 

 

- Lack of leadership structure. Howe takes some criticism for the signings we've made but Christ for a team that wants to get to the top our back room has been shocking. I'm hoping he works well with the new guys to address this. 

 

- Fine margins and the fact the rest of the PL has caught up a bit. At this point pretty much anyone can beat anyone. The league seems much more physical and our edge there has gone a bit especially with the increased number of games. We've lost loads of points late.

 

I'm still confident he's a he guy. As has been said we're allowed to have a bad season without throwing the baby out with the bathwater. We'll need to strengthen in January, especially at RW, and I'm hoping our new team have identified someone suitable for him.