TRon Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I think Carroll would be a disaster for our football, especially now we have a PFM manager in place who has no idea how to set up a passing team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Murphy for Bowen swap deal would be good - even paying 10m on top. Great shout has this been said in the press? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Murphy is piss, can't wait till he's replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Not even sure he is tbh, I'm just making it up. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I think Carroll would be a disaster for our football, especially now we have a PFM manager in place who has no idea how to set up a passing team. Did you see the match yesterday? Second half we played some really good stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I think Carroll would be a disaster for our football, especially now we have a PFM manager in place who has no idea how to set up a passing team. Did you see the match yesterday? Second half we played some really good stuff Do you think that was Bruce or the past three years of coaching drilled by Rafa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I think Carroll would be a disaster for our football, especially now we have a PFM manager in place who has no idea how to set up a passing team. Did you see the match yesterday? Second half we played some really good stuff Do you think that was Bruce or the past three years of coaching drilled by Rafa? Both. It was drastically different in style/tactics in the second half. Very attacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Murphy for Bowen swap deal would be good - even paying 10m on top. Murphy is not ready and after two seasons, should be further along than he is. One right back is definitely needed - what happened to that Sidibe link from a few weeks ago? Or that Swedish guy even though he does seem no better than Yedlin. In terms of using loans properly, getting Bakayoko from Chelsea to cover centre mid would be good. Or that Man U youngster that was on loan to Villa to cover the right side. Think that would do the job tbh. I'd rather get Carroll in as a free transfer (over Austin) for one season or two - a) to get it out of the way and at least now when he's still only 30. Not a bad option and different to the other options. Otherwise he'll still be linked every summer until he's 35 ('to do a job' for us) or retired. I'm not too fussed about that young Argentine from Inter - too many raw players is also not good - some experience is definitely needed. Out - Murphy, Colback, Lazaar, Saivet, Elliot, Clark, I'm not sure a right back is essential. In an ideal world, yeah i'd like an upgrade but if we're planning on playing three at the back then I think Yedlin and Manquillo are a 'good enough for now' solution. CM and out and out striker is a higher priority in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I think Carroll would be a disaster for our football, especially now we have a PFM manager in place who has no idea how to set up a passing team. Did you see the match yesterday? Second half we played some really good stuff Do you think that was Bruce or the past three years of coaching drilled by Rafa? Both. It was drastically different in style/tactics in the second half. Very attacking. I expect us to have a honeymoon period where we might see the players playing some decent football for the first month or two, then the wheels will start falling off. That is when we will see what Steve Bruce is really made of. Rafa was brilliant during the bad spells, very clear on his objectives, and his teams emerged stronger because of it. Steve Bruce would quickly resort to lumping it long towards Carroll if we had him in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TRon Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I get the feeling this guy is going to be a lot better than that fee would suggest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I thought they had rejected a €5m bid from us last week? Also, considering he signed for them earlier in the summer, if he allowed to even sign for us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Unsure about him. I've really liked Manquillo lately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I thought they had rejected a €5m bid from us last week? Also, considering he signed for them earlier in the summer, if he allowed to even sign for us? Yes. Rules are you can only play for two teams in a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Murphy for Bowen swap deal would be good - even paying 10m on top. That would be a good solution. Also need to sell Saivet, Aarrons, Lazaar, Sterry and Colback. In a perfect world Muto, Atsu and Gayle would be sold aswell, but all of them needs replacements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I think Carroll would be a disaster for our football, especially now we have a PFM manager in place who has no idea how to set up a passing team. Did you see the match yesterday? Second half we played some really good stuff Do you think that was Bruce or the past three years of coaching drilled by Rafa? Both. It was drastically different in style/tactics in the second half. Very attacking. Only 4 teams scored more than us since Rafa was allowed to sign Almiron in January to play in his front 3 of Almiron, Perez, Rondon. Scored 2+ goals in 6 of our last 7 home games since Rafa built his front 3. Winning 5 out of 7 of them. And we were statistically the 7th best side in the league since Almiron signed/With Rafa’s 3 Amigos upfront. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Unsure about him. I've really liked Manquillo lately. Also think he's been more than ok lately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Murphy for Bowen swap deal would be good - even paying 10m on top. That would be a good solution. Also need to sell Saivet, Aarrons, Lazaar, Sterry and Colback. In a perfect world Muto, Atsu and Gayle would be sold aswell, but all of them needs replacements. I would be happy to keep Saivet as cover if he was willing to stay. He’s not done much wrong, the West Ham game the season before last showed that against mid table and lower team he can do a decent job. Lazaar you could say hasn’t been given a chance, and again as cover I’d be tempted to keep him. Colback can fuck off. Muto did well in Pre-season, I think he deserves a chance or at least be allowed to stay as cover. Atsu and Gayle need to be upgraded upon. Ideally we could do with upgrading on all of them, however we all know that won’t happen, so there is a few there who I wouldn’t mind keeping a hold of for cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I think Carroll would be a disaster for our football, especially now we have a PFM manager in place who has no idea how to set up a passing team. Did you see the match yesterday? Second half we played some really good stuff Do you think that was Bruce or the past three years of coaching drilled by Rafa? Both. It was drastically different in style/tactics in the second half. Very attacking. Only 4 teams scored more than us since Rafa was allowed to sign Almiron in January to play in his front 3 of Almiron, Perez, Rondon. Scored 2+ goals in 6 of our last 7 home games since Rafa built his front 3. Winning 5 out of 7 of them. And we were statistically the 7th best side in the league since Almiron signed/With Rafa’s 3 Amigos upfront. We also had the most shots on target against Liverpool of any Premier League that played them. The only boring thing about Rafa were the myths Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Talk of loaning out Manquillo now. That would be madness given his versatility but also form. He looks like our best fullback at the minute (not very high praise in fairness). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Murphy for Bowen swap deal would be good - even paying 10m on top. That would be a good solution. Also need to sell Saivet, Aarrons, Lazaar, Sterry and Colback. In a perfect world Muto, Atsu and Gayle would be sold aswell, but all of them needs replacements. I would be happy to keep Saivet as cover if he was willing to stay. He’s not done much wrong, the West Ham game the season before last showed that against mid table and lower team he can do a decent job. Lazaar you could say hasn’t been given a chance, and again as cover I’d be tempted to keep him. Colback can fuck off. Muto did well in Pre-season, I think he deserves a chance or at least be allowed to stay as cover. Atsu and Gayle need to be upgraded upon. Ideally we could do with upgrading on all of them, however we all know that won’t happen, so there is a few there who I wouldn’t mind keeping a hold of for cover. I think Saivet should at least get a look in. Hard given the timescale but presume he is back in training starting tomorrow? Plus we would likely loan him out to a European side so there is a bit more time to take a look before that window closes. Agree with the rest. Looks like Gayle is staying unless its a bit of posturing saying otherwise which is always a possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelveys Hair Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 I think Carroll would be a disaster for our football, especially now we have a PFM manager in place who has no idea how to set up a passing team. Did you see the match yesterday? Second half we played some really good stuff Do you think that was Bruce or the past three years of coaching drilled by Rafa? Both. It was drastically different in style/tactics in the second half. Very attacking. Only 4 teams scored more than us since Rafa was allowed to sign Almiron in January to play in his front 3 of Almiron, Perez, Rondon. Scored 2+ goals in 6 of our last 7 home games since Rafa built his front 3. Winning 5 out of 7 of them. And we were statistically the 7th best side in the league since Almiron signed/With Rafa’s 3 Amigos upfront. We also had the most shots on target against Liverpool of any Premier League that played them. The only boring thing about Rafa were the myths If Bruce persists with 3-5-2 you won't see Almiron and Saint-Maximin in the same team. Needs to play the same way as Benitez.. not having a front 3 of Almiron, Joelinton and Saint-Maximin would be tragic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Talk of loaning out Manquillo now. That would be madness given his versatility but also form. He looks like our best fullback at the minute (not very high praise in fairness). Unless they think Sterry is ready to play at this level or we're close to signing this Swedish dude, loaning out 1 of 2 actual right backs in the squad is really dumb. Particularly with Yedlin's struggles and him coming off surgery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Regardless of Yedlin's fitness, right back is an area we need to strengthen, so I'm pleased we seem to be getting this Swedish lad. Sterry shows promise, but I'm not sure he's ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Regardless of Yedlin's fitness, right back is an area we need to strengthen, so I'm pleased we seem to be getting this Swedish lad. Sterry shows promise, but I'm not sure he's ready. At nearly 24 will Sterry ever be ready? Maybe a late bloomer, loan makes most sense for him. Keep Manquillo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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