Mike Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 We're *worse* than the team that went like 2-20 something last season. We're worse! It's wilder than I could have ever imagined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) Transfer related, it's a good piece in The Athletic about how our budget works. It's not fixed and it's pretty much case-by-case. "as things stand, multiple sources expect there will only be sufficient funds to make two loan signings and one permanent addition this window as Bruce targets a left centre-back, a defensive midfielder and a No 8." "For a start, they do not have a fixed, predetermined “budget” per se. They do identify a portion of their revenue to be set aside for incomings — previously, it has been the amount remaining once operating costs are subtracted from turnover, supplemented by player sales — but that figure is flexible and can potentially be increased (or indeed squeezed) depending on which targets prove attainable." "The hierarchy are unlikely to permit the signing of two 27-year-olds for £10 million each but, should Arsenal prove willing to sell Willock for around £20 million, then Newcastle may consider exhausting their resources to secure his signature." "Under Ashley, the three major principles that have driven Newcastle’s transfer approach have included age (24 and under), potential sell-on value and quality. Unless those strict criteria were met, then substantial fees would not be spent on players — but, if they were, then Newcastle were willing to stretch to greater lengths to finance a deal they believed to be an attractive one." "What Benitez wanted was to be told you have “£x million” and you can spend it how you see fit, be that by acquiring one player or five. Yet Newcastle told him to treat every deal individually and they would consider each target on their merits. They did not want Benitez to be fixated on a set kitty because, in theory, they may reject a request for three £5 million players, but may then permit a £25 million acquisition for the “right player”." "Newcastle would not have spent £15 million on just anyone, but Lewis was 22 and being tracked by some of England’s top clubs, primarily Liverpool, which suggested genuine sell-on potential. In effect, Lewis was signed outside of Newcastle’s actual “budget” because he was deemed to be a prospect worth extending their resources for." "The Norwich winger was hardly a priority target for Benitez but, because he was 22, available for an initial £10 million and deemed likely to appreciate in value, Newcastle were keen to acquire him and so the manager brought him in, in part, because it was a deal he was able to conclude." (Murphy) "The owner was annoyed that Benitez did not permit the purchase in February 2019 and feared the club had missed the chance to sign the 22-year-old Brazilian, even claiming he offered to personally “pay” £23 million towards the fee. Benitez, though, wanted the soon-to-be 29-year-old, Salomon Rondon, instead. The Venezuelan impressively led the line, scoring 11 top-flight goals on loan on Tyneside, but his age (and admittedly high wage demands) meant Newcastle would not pursue a permanent move." “It wasn’t even as if it was him (Joelinton) or Salomon Rondon,” Ashley told the Daily Mail in July 2019. “And we told him (Benitez) that. We just wanted Joelinton secured." Edited July 29, 2021 by nbthree3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 What a load of shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnMag Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 We are monitoring loan market Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 When was the last time Newcastle loaned a player to a Premier league club ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Should just write this thread off along with both takeover threads, Fucking none starters all of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Farcical way to run things where the manager hasn't got a clue what he can and can't do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Farcical way to run things where the manager hasn't got a clue what he can and can't do. It just reafirms what we all know - Mike Ashley pulls all the strings, at NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 56 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: It just reafirms what we all know - Mike Ashley pulls all the strings, at NUFC. Agree, we will bring players in, at minimum cost, but it won't be for a few weeks yet, I still think ASM will go near the end of transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Yorkie said: Farcical way to run things where the manager hasn't got a clue what he can and can't do. They always know better than everyone else in football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Exhausting their resources. £20M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Ben said: When was the last time Newcastle loaned a player to a Premier league club ? Lua Lua to Portsmouth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Carroll to Liverpool and then West Ham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Ben said: When was the last time Newcastle loaned a player to a Premier league club ? Were Norwich in the PL when we loaned them Jonas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Krul to Brighton I guess counts but he left permanently about 3 weeks after... What a season that was for him "On 31 August 2017, Krul signed for Premier League club Brighton & Hove Albion on a season-long loan, reuniting him with former Newcastle manager Chris Hughton. On 19 September, he made his debut for the club in an EFL Cup third round tie against Bournemouth. The following day, he signed a permanent deal with Brighton, ending his twelve-year association with Newcastle. At the end of the season, Krul left the club." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: Krul to Brighton I guess counts but he left permanently about 3 weeks after... What a season that was for him "On 31 August 2017, Krul signed for Premier League club Brighton & Hove Albion on a season-long loan, reuniting him with former Newcastle manager Chris Hughton. On 19 September, he made his debut for the club in an EFL Cup third round tie against Bournemouth. The following day, he signed a permanent deal with Brighton, ending his twelve-year association with Newcastle. At the end of the season, Krul left the club." And HBA to Hull before that. Still hurts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 HBA to Hull. Still in disbelief. Can still see him in that fucking car. Fuck's sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 46 minutes ago, Ashley17 said: Were Norwich in the PL when we loaned them Jonas? Eh we loaned Jonas? Fuck me I missed that one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 who was the last CM we paid a fee for? miggy doesnt count. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, huss9 said: who was the last CM we paid a fee for? miggy doesnt count. Hayden? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Merino Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, Nobody said: Hayden? Technically it was Merino although he left not soon after, so would say it was Diame. 5 fucking years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, neesy111 said: Technically it was Merino although he left not soon after, so would say it was Diame. 5 fucking years ago. Fuck me There are so many of these throughout Ashleys time here as well. Obviously the big one was not breaking the transfer record for fucking ages, but there has been plenty of small ones like this as well. Not that I can actually think of any now mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I’m horribly wanting us to sign no one . is that bad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, GWN said: I’m horribly wanting us to sign no one . is that bad? I thinks it's best for everyone if we sink into the championship for a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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