Dinho lad Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Allen's like a welsh Vurnon Anita. No thanks. Lazy comparison because they're both small. He's much better than Anita. Tidy on the ball and understands tactics well. Also, when he plays further forward, he's possess decent threat. He'd certainly fit the team mould. 12 goals in like 160 games, he's only good for what he does, mobile, short passes. He's a pretty nothing player really Oh look, stats again. Okay, how many of those games was he played in deep lying playmaker role (not his best position as well) and how many of those was he surrounded by shit players? Also, Astroblack, fuck sake stop judging his strength based on his height. He hasdecent amount of muscle and is quite competitive. Rafa would love him here, I'm sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Shelvey has 13 Premier League goals in 171 fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Allen played as an attacking mid 3 times last season. Got at least a goal or assist in each game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 He is the best of midfielders / he is the blurst of midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 In all seriousness you don't improve signing players like that. We need to be signing players who will actually improve the team not more "depth". I don't see Allen starting and everyone going "yeah I'm glad he's starting and not Shelvey or Diame". If we are signing a CM it should be someone who is obviously better than what we have and to me Allen isn't that. Luckily I think Rafa knows that and won't be interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Could see Hughes taking him to Southampton and him doing very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 In all seriousness you don't improve signing players like that. We need to be signing players who will actually improve the team not more "depth". I don't see Allen starting and everyone going "yeah I'm glad he's starting and not Shelvey or Diame". If we are signing a CM it should be someone who is obviously better than what we have and to me Allen isn't that. Luckily I think Rafa knows that and won't be interested. The italics bit is bollocks IMO. As a premise I mean. Forget about Joe Allen in particular. You, in principle, can improve exactly like that. Somebody who fits a system. Who brings what a manager thinks the team needs; and on occasion contributes significantly more than was expected. Historical case(s) in point. I think players like Barry Venison, Brian Kilcline, Paul Bracewell, Roy Aitken improved the team hugely. More so than many signings which may have got the collective pulses racing. The bit in bold: I agree with the point, about fan reaction, thing is though Diame played very well against Stoke (away, can’t remember home). But Allen played very well too. He was tenacious and particularly effective when they were without the ball. Regardless of how many goals he scores, if you don’t realise how important it is to close harry, generally hassle and breakup play, then I doubt you really understand what contributes to winning football matches. I’d welcome Allen, if Rafa sees a role for him. He consistently has done, and will continue to do, a job at the top level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 As long as Merino is around we don't need to bring in another playmaker at CM, him and Shelvey cover that. We need competition and cover for Diame basically, an upgrade to Hayden and our CM is sorted. No Allen thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I think I would be more confortable with him displacing ayoze in the team, same workload but allen seems to have a tad more quality and brings the whole team into play. I am not sure about him playing with Shelvey as we would be very "light" and I can´t see him displacing shelvey as he is who makes our team tick when on his game. To conclude; if we sell merino then yes, if we don´t then I think he´s surplus to requirements... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 As long as Merino is around we don't need to bring in another playmaker at CM, him and Shelvey cover that. We need competition and cover for Diame basically, an upgrade to Hayden and our CM is sorted. No Allen thanks. Exactly. Allen's not going to replace Shelvey or Diame - and even if Merino wants away, is Allen the man we want to replace him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 As long as Merino is around we don't need to bring in another playmaker at CM, him and Shelvey cover that. We need competition and cover for Diame basically, an upgrade to Hayden and our CM is sorted. No Allen thanks. Exactly. Allen's not going to replace Shelvey or Diame - and even if Merino wants away, is Allen the man we want to replace him? Nope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Allen isn't a midfielder I would have picked for us, but I could see him fitting into a Rafa team very well tbh. Size matters less when you aren't a pressing team, and Rafa likes to play on the counter so a clever little midfielder with work rate could fit the role pretty well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 New one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Yes please!!! He's good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Would love Sisto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Ha shit he was the guy I was raving about a few weeks ago when I saw them play. He looked mint. Aye fucking please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Dennis Wise scouting says he's class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Yeah, just watched his season highlights. Looks very very impressive. Very intelligent use of the ball. Great passer and crosser cutting in from the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 How wings we gonna be playing with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 If Kenedy's not going to happen, then he looks like a good player like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 As long as Merino is around we don't need to bring in another playmaker at CM, him and Shelvey cover that. We need competition and cover for Diame basically, an upgrade to Hayden and our CM is sorted. No Allen thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 He's linked to pretty much every club in the league like. £20m quoted. He'll go to Southampton, then Liverpool will pay £90m for him in a couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I think I would be more confortable with him displacing ayoze in the team, same workload but allen seems to have a tad more quality and brings the whole team into play. I am not sure about him playing with Shelvey as we would be very "light" and I can´t see him displacing shelvey as he is who makes our team tick when on his game. To conclude; if we sell merino then yes, if we don´t then I think he´s surplus to requirements... Perez already has more goals and assists than Joe Allen, and is younger, not sure what quality Allen has over him Plus Joe Allen isn't a secondary/deep lying striker/in the hole monger/playmaker/number 10/etc/etc/etc/etc. 4/10 WNB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Plus his surname rhymes with bistro and we love gravy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Got my heart set on this Sisto chap after some utubing. Hopefully has a quiet WC for Daneland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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