cubaricho Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 I’m okay with him making the move. I think it’ll help us out in reality. I’ll always love him for being one of the first through the door for our revolution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, oldtype said: We're never going to get this much money for him again and we were probably going to move him on in the summer anyway. Given the reality where we are this season, it makes sense. This is how I feel about Miggy, but I'm not sure this is true for Trippier. He could easily be our starting RB and captain for the first game next season. It also feels like we're potentially set at fullback for next season if we keep him. Trippier, Tino, Burn, Hall (presumably), and Targett (unless we can sell him, fingers crossed) provides options and cover. But if we sell him then suddenly Tino is the starting RB, the starting LB is one of those others, and we don't have a backup RB. Whereas with Miggy we know we want to upgrade RW anyway and I'm confident it's at or near the top of the club's list. He would be a nice squad option, but there are other ways to go about that (e.g. Gordon as a backup). With Trippier it feels like we're getting less money for a more important player that may also force us to invest more into his position in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 If they bid closer to 15 then I probably have to eat my own words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 5 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: This is how I feel about Miggy, but I'm not sure this is true for Trippier. He could easily be our starting RB and captain for the first game next season. It also feels like we're potentially set at fullback for next season if we keep him. Trippier, Tino, Burn, Hall (presumably), and Targett (unless we can sell him, fingers crossed) provides options and cover. But if we sell him then suddenly Tino is the starting RB, the starting LB is one of those others, and we don't have a backup RB. Whereas with Miggy we know we want to upgrade RW anyway and I'm confident it's at or near the top of the club's list. He would be a nice squad option, but there are other ways to go about that (e.g. Gordon as a backup). With Trippier it feels like we're getting less money for a more important player that may also force us to invest more into his position in the summer. I don’t necessarily disagree but I also think we’re going to miss Miggy more than Tripps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 1 minute ago, cubaricho said: I don’t necessarily disagree but I also think we’re going to miss Miggy more than Tripps. We won't miss Champions league and Carabao Cup Tripps. ........to soon ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 The problem is, going to tino first choice and Kraft backup massively weakens us. We need to sign a new right back. I assume we will do in summer anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 Just now, cubaricho said: I don’t necessarily disagree but I also think we’re going to miss Miggy more than Tripps. That feels linked to the fact that we have a promising replacement in place for one and the other leaves a big, unknown hole. I agree we're going to miss a lot of the work he does and it could be hard to find the right player, but spun another way... There's also far greater potential for a new RW to transform us whereas we're mostly hoping Tino can just match Trippier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 13 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: This is how I feel about Miggy, but I'm not sure this is true for Trippier. He could easily be our starting RB and captain for the first game next season. It also feels like we're potentially set at fullback for next season if we keep him. Trippier, Tino, Burn, Hall (presumably), and Targett (unless we can sell him, fingers crossed) provides options and cover. But if we sell him then suddenly Tino is the starting RB, the starting LB is one of those others, and we don't have a backup RB. Whereas with Miggy we know we want to upgrade RW anyway and I'm confident it's at or near the top of the club's list. He would be a nice squad option, but there are other ways to go about that (e.g. Gordon as a backup). With Trippier it feels like we're getting less money for a more important player that may also force us to invest more into his position in the summer. I'm sure we could figure something out at backup RB in the summer if we have to. I just don't think it makes sense to have Trippier blocking Livarmento's ascent to the starting role next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 4 minutes ago, Shearergol said: The problem is, going to tino first choice and Kraft backup massively weakens us. We need to sign a new right back. I assume we will do in summer anyway. Does it really though? Tino is seen as the long term replacement for Trippier, he's just stepping up 18 months earlier than planned. He's been a belting signing but getting our money back on a now 33 year old who wants away anyway is a no brainer for all concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 12 minutes ago, cubaricho said: I don’t necessarily disagree but I also think we’re going to miss Miggy more than Tripps. Depends who we replace them with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Shearergol said: The problem is, going to tino first choice and Kraft backup massively weakens us. We need to sign a new right back. I assume we will do in summer anyway. Yes. I'm worried by the assumption that further injuries wont happen. If we leave a position light, knowing us this season, they almost certainly will. Edited January 23, 2024 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 16 minutes ago, Shearergol said: The problem is, going to tino first choice and Kraft backup massively weakens us. We need to sign a new right back. I assume we will do in summer anyway. This is crazy to me. Is the new RB you want a starter or a backup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 Just now, Weezertron said: This is crazy to me. Is the new RB you want a starter or a backup? Why is it crazy? Krafth isn't good enough for where we want to be, yes that's as a backup player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 It looks very much like the writing is on the wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 2 hours ago, oldtype said: The "all of our creativity comes from our 33-year-old right back" model was never going to be sustainable anyway. We have other creative players, they can step up to fill the void. We have a whole half-season with relatively low expectations for Howe to figure it out. We have other creative players? No we don’t! Sellinf Tripps allows us 1 good player for 1 year of the amortisation cost. It’s not a silver bullet to our transfer woes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Shearergol said: The problem is, going to tino first choice and Kraft backup massively weakens us. We need to sign a new right back. I assume we will do in summer anyway. It will weaken us some, but not having it that it'll "massively" weaken us. Livramento isn't a like for like replacement, but he has qualities Tripps doesn't have. The lad is 21 and needs to start more games to improve. If Krafths contract isn't extended, we need to bring in a back-up to Livramento, not someone who could hamper his progress. Edited January 23, 2024 by Conjo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 Now is the best time to sell him , middle of the season when we don't have a great deal left to play for and if the last few months are anything to go by he is already on the decline . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 Just now, Conjo said: It will weaken us some, but not having it that it'll "massively" weaken us. Livramento is a like for like replacement, but he has qualities Tripps doesn't have. The lad is 21 and needs to start more games to improve. If Krafths contract isn't extended, we need to bring in a back-up to Livramento, not someone who could hamper his progress. The problem is we currently have one of the best right backs in the league backed up by another of the best right backs in the league. Kraft is a MASSIVE drop off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 Just now, Geogaddi said: Now is the best time to sell him , middle of the season when we don't have a great deal left to play for and if the last few months are anything to go by he is already on the decline . Will people fuck off saying this bollocks please. We’re not writing the season off in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 14 minutes ago, STM said: It looks very much like the writing is on the wall. Or over the wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 Just now, Shearergol said: The problem is we currently have one of the best right backs in the league backed up by another of the best right backs in the league. Kraft is a MASSIVE drop off Ah, yes. Misunderstood what you meant then. Agree with that, but unless we qualify for Europe or Livramento gets a long term injury it's not like he would play much if anything next season anyway. Krafth was decent enough during Trippiers injury, and he's seemingly come back in as good or better shape than he was. He's on massive wages compared to what we get in return, so I expect we won't renew and we'll get someone new in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 Just now, Conjo said: Ah, yes. Misunderstood what you meant then. Agree with that, but unless we qualify for Europe or Livramento gets a long term injury it's not like he would play much if anything next season anyway. Krafth was decent enough during Trippiers injury, and he's seemingly come back in as good or better shape than he was. He's on massive wages compared to what we get in return, so I expect we won't renew and we'll get someone new in. That’s the ideal scenario. Hopefully we can protect Tino until summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Will people fuck off saying this bollocks please. We’re not writing the season off in January. Joelinton out for the rest of the season was the final nail in the coffin for this season , we will likely finish 8th at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted January 23, 2024 Share Posted January 23, 2024 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: The problem is we currently have one of the best right backs in the league backed up by another of the best right backs in the league. Kraft is a MASSIVE drop off Would love to see a young CB brought in this summer that can also be second choice RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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