Sven Botman back late December/early January 'at the earliest' (Howe)

[Gawalls]

6 hours ago, r0cafella said:

Guys, we literally have a thread for sports washing can we keep this one on topic and move this talk to the relevant thread?

Now you’re just thread washing.

[Gawalls]

1 minute ago, HTT II said:

If you’re referring to me, how have I or am I sportswashed?

Just having a laugh- should have added I wasn’t  serious, my genuine apologies 

 

 

Edited June 14, 2022 by Gawalls

[prefabtoon]

Botman Deal not happening now, lets just move on now to the next in the list.

[Dr Venkman]

Every time I see ‘sports washing doesn’t exist’ or something similar I think of ‘advertising doesn’t work, who sees an advert for a washing machine and immediately goes to buy a washing machine!?’ 
 

It’s more or less the same argument.

[Milanista]

There's another factor to Lille's current stance: they are (or rather: were) under investigation by the DNCG, which regulates the finances in French football. Lille's accounts were under investigation and they just got cleared, so they are now able to actually makes moves in the transfer market. This is probably the most likely reason there hasn't been movement by Lille.

 

The article, in Italian, is here.

 

This is no small issue, as the DNCG just relegated Bordeaux, an important club in France, from the 2nd division to the 3rd division as a result of their finances.

 

This was an under-reported element in both Italian and English press with their various theories (including my own) as to why there wasn't more movement on the part of Lille.

 

 

Edited June 14, 2022 by Milanista

[Gawalls]

1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said:

Every time I see ‘sports washing doesn’t exist’ or something similar I think of ‘advertising doesn’t work, who sees an advert for a washing machine and immediately goes to buy a washing machine!?’ 
 

It’s more or less the same argument.

But I do know they live longer with calgon

[Guest HTT II]

4 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

Every time I see ‘sports washing doesn’t exist’ or something similar I think of ‘advertising doesn’t work, who sees an advert for a washing machine and immediately goes to buy a washing machine!?’ 
 

It’s more or less the same argument.

It does exist, but it’s mostly by others and not the so called sportswashing states. Again I very very highly doubt PIF bought us to make some random people forget about their human rights abuses knowing that it won’t effect their ability to trade with the US and U.K. or buy into major industries, companies and promote themselves as successful people.
 

Wishful thinking perhaps, but I do hope them owning NUFC and the whole golf thing will keep being questioned RE their human rights abuses. My issue is that the people who question them do so using us fans and our club as an excuse to do so, based on personal agendas. It’s the mackem faux outrage I can’t stand.

 

If you want to make a stand don’t just use NUFC or Golf, target your own government who deal with them, and go after all abuses of human rights which our own country is as bad as any, but it gets dressed up because gay people can get married despite underneath the cloth are persecuted massively. Or we welcome foreigners yet underneath the veil we send them to Africa or that we provide free heath care yet our taxes to pay for that go towards Boris’ wallpaper and paying off a victim of a nonce Prince and so on and so on.

[Numbers]

Thought I had stumbled into the Sportwashing thread, had to check title.

[Unbelievable]

Ouch, Van Gaal has just namechecked Botman as a player he doesn't think is ready for the (main) national team, although he did clarify he thinks there are too many options he considers to be better. I think Botman will need to move to a bigger league and prove his worth, or hope that Koeman sees things differently.

[Fantail Breeze]

1 minute ago, Unbelievable said:

Ouch, Van Gaal has just namechecked Botman as a player he doesn't think is ready for the (main) national team, although he did clarify he thinks there are too many options he considers to be better. I think Botman will need to move to a bigger league and prove his worth, or hope that Koeman sees things differently.

 

Slightly worrying that a 30 year old Bruno Martins Indi is considered as a better option  

[The Prophet]

12 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

Ouch, Van Gaal has just namechecked Botman as a player he doesn't think is ready for the (main) national team, although he did clarify he thinks there are too many options he considers to be better. I think Botman will need to move to a bigger league and prove his worth, or hope that Koeman sees things differently.

 

A bit of coaching from Eddie and the team, he'll be laughing.

[Coffee_Johnny]

Engage bullshit radar (especially given source)…

 

“Sven Botman has once again rejected the advances of Newcastle United as he has his heart set on a move to AC Milan, a report claims.

This morning’s edition of La Gazzetta dello Sport (via MilanNews) makes the stance of the parties very clear. Both Milan and Newcastle strongly want Botman but they player only wants the Rossoneri, while Lille are instead pushing to make him accept the proposal of the Premier League club.”

 

https://sempremilan.com/botman-rejects-newcastle-united-lille-milan

[The Prophet]

It's not just us at least. La Gazzetta dello Sport claim that Charles De Ketelaere is absolutely gagging to join Milan and the thought of joining Leicester makes him violently ill.

 

[McCormick]

According to SempreMilan we’re just stalking him at this point  . Absolute nonsense again, we’d definitely just walk away if he was being this dismissive over our offer.

[Emotic]

10 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

It's not just us at least. La Gazzetta dello Sport claim that Charles De Ketelaere is absolutely gagging to join Milan and the thought of joining Leicester makes him violently ill.

 

Genuinely LOLed at this 

[gbandit]

Aye, the next article will be that Botman has taken out a restraining order against us 

[Nucasol]

3 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Aye, the next article will be that Botman has taken out a restraining order against us 

Mandy and Mehrdad spotted rummaging through Sven’s black bin bags and recycling @ Casa Del Botman.

[The Prophet]

Scott Wilson still claiming a fee has been agreed, despite no one backing him up.

[The Prophet]

 

Here's the link, for what it's worth.

[Ikon]

Should move on soon. Can’t spend 4 windows to get the deal done. Should start making some demands or it’s goodbye. 

[SUPERTOON]

I’m hoping we are ready to move on to the next target if we do indeed give up on this one.

[The Prophet]

It's a very confused article. Wilson says we've agreed the structure of a deal with Lille, but that's not a full agreement. So at this stage Botman's preference is totally irrelevant, he doesn't have a decision to make until a club has a full agreement with Lille.

 

 

Edited June 16, 2022 by The Prophet

[James]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

I’m hoping we are ready to move on to the next target if we do indeed give up on this one.

I heard we are looking at Iranmon as an alternative

[Mansour]

There is a difference between convincing players and almost begging them. If the issue is Botman does not want to come as opposed to Lille trying to get a little bit more, I hope we move onto the next target.

[Manxst]

1 minute ago, Mansour said:

There is a difference between convincing players and almost begging them. If the issue is Botman does not want to come as opposed to Lille trying to get a little bit more, I hope we move onto the next target.

And I’m sure the owners and manager will be of the same opinion also, hence why if we’re still trying to progress the deal, that won’t be the current circumstance.