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Just now, Pilko said:

I really hope tonight's just a very rare shit show from him. He's been the absolute pits here, nowhere near his usual levels.


They all have really.

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4 minutes ago, Ben said:

TBF I don't think he's ever played in a game where he was so exposed 

 

He's brought it on himself though with some suicidal passing

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23 minutes ago, Pilko said:

I really hope tonight's just a very rare shit show from him. He's been the absolute pits here, nowhere near his usual levels.

He’s been pants since he came back from injury in the main.  Was imperious before it - I’m hoping that he’s still not fully recovered. 

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37 minutes ago, Pilko said:

I really hope tonight's just a very rare shit show from him. He's been the absolute pits here, nowhere near his usual levels.


Not that bad. But he’s been mainly poor since coming back from injury. 

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His start to the season was absolutely majestic and he looked like he’d hit a higher level than last season. Every game he was a monster and so dominant.

 

The injury has been a killer for him. Probably worth giving him a game or two off.

 

 

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Said it in the match thread but they showed him onto his right all night and it left him absolutely clueless. Clever tactics from the opposition it has to be said but by fuck did he struggle. Own goal was incredibly unlucky obviously. 

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4 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Said it in the match thread but they showed him onto his right all night and it left him absolutely clueless. Clever tactics from the opposition it has to be said but by fuck did he struggle. Own goal was incredibly unlucky obviously. 

He’s not normally that bad on his right though. We had issues playing the ball out from defence all game - even Trippier and Schar. Arsenal bombarded our only realistic midfield passing option in Bruno which worked very effectively, and Longstaff just hid most of the game like he didn’t want to receive the ball. Their centre backs were proactive against a half-fit Isak… there was just never a good passing option for our CBs.

 

And also… he regularly uses Burn as an outlet but Livramento plays much higher and was generally marked as a result.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Said it in the match thread but they showed him onto his right all night and it left him absolutely clueless. Clever tactics from the opposition it has to be said but by fuck did he struggle. Own goal was incredibly unlucky obviously. 

 

Not sure the own goal was unlucky, he should have just cleared it properly

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Two of the goals were directly his fault. Doesn't mean he's turned to shit mind, just couldn't cope with so many Arsenal players coming at him from all directions, same for the rest of the defence tbh. The midfield were just letting them through like a human tidal wave.

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2 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

He's been off it for a number of weeks now

The back 4 has been exposed for a number of weeks now, that massive gap between them and the midfield is the problem.

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31 minutes ago, TRon said:

Two of the goals were directly his fault. Doesn't mean he's turned to shit mind, just couldn't cope with so many Arsenal players coming at him from all directions, same for the rest of the defence tbh. The midfield were just letting them through like a human tidal wave.

He’s been, more specifically his lack of pace and decision making,  responsible—or most responsible—‘for another two goals in last couple of games also. He’s been little short of his standard since he returned. Doesn’t take much of a percentage drop to cease being an asset at this level. Let’s hope it is a blip and with a bit more protection in midfield and more of the ball he can find the groove again. 

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1 minute ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

He’s been, more specifically his lack of pace and decision making,  responsible—or most responsible—‘for another two goals in last couple of games also. He’s been little short of his standard since he returned. Doesn’t take much of a percentage drop to cease being an asset at this level. Let’s hope it is a blip and with a bit more protection in midfield and more of the ball he can find the groove again. 

 

Not concerned about him at all. I think once we get our blue chip players back he'll look more like himself. The lack of pace is chronic in that midfield, and we don't have a whole lot of it in defence either. When we lose pace in front of the defence they look even more exposed.

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