Sven Botman: targeting January return (Howe)

[Rich]

£100M please.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Rich said:

£100M please.

And the rest

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

That’s just how it goes, we have to be realistic about some of the players we have here. They will attract interest and if the valuations are met, they will go. Nothing necessarily wrong with that.

 

It does underline how vital securing European football is for next season.

[Skeletor]

22 minutes ago, Rich said:

£100M please.

 

*Clicks the "not for sale at any price" button on his profile*

[The Prophet]

Top players will always attract interest, it means they're performing at a high level.

 

Thankfully when it comes to key players, we're now in a position to tell buying teams where to go. If the player wants the move, we can demand a ludicrous amount that can be invested back into the team. 

 

Given Botman said that his dream was to play in the Premier League and he's only 24 games into his first season, I'm not too concerned at this stage

[TBG]

Worrying that he was part of that excellent unbeaten run, but more importantly part of the team on a three match losing streak. 

[The Prophet]

2 minutes ago, TBG said:

Worrying that he was part of that excellent unbeaten run, but more importantly part of the team on a three match losing streak. 

 

Burn has gone from "we shouldn't be dropping him for Botman" to "string him up from the Tyne Bridge" in the space of six months.

[Kanji]

When we were first linked with Botman it was said he was one our scouting team have earmarked as our future captain. 

[Decky]

I’m confident we’ll sell the project to him and Bruno. They’re our most important players for the future. With Isak we’ve a spine for the next 8 years. 

[TRon]

5 hours ago, TBG said:

Worrying that he was part of that excellent unbeaten run, but more importantly part of the team on a three match losing streak. 

 

He's been a bit off for the last few games, but he looked so good for so long you just feel it's a blip. As they say, form is temporary, class is permanent.

[The College Dropout]

If we are being good FFP boys, we’ll need to sell some players. 

[The Prophet]

2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

If we are being good FFP boys, we’ll need to sell some players. 

 

Of our better players, ASM feels like the most likely candidate.

[Disco]

Loads of money will drop off the wage bill next season which will help. All the lads they paid to go out on loan, Wood, Shelvey, Fernandez with some sales added on. Couple of new headline sponsors and increased TV money will see not have to do too much to sign 2-3, maybe 4 first teamers from outside the PL/1 year left. 
 

Be daft to sell anyone who’s played regularly this season IMO unless they kick up a stink. 

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Of our better players, ASM feels like the most likely candidate.

Won’t get a massive fee.  

[The Prophet]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

Won’t get a massive fee.  

 

Not massive, but healthy enough. 

[The College Dropout]

Yeh it’s not going to be enough. 
 

im not talking this summer. But I can see in a year or two us selling a talent for 60m+. If that was Botman that would be a 50m or so FFP profit. 
 

I hope we avoid that. But if we aren’t going to juice the sponsorships, we’ll need to optimise FFP sales. That means selling star players.  

[TRon]

11 minutes ago, Disco said:

Loads of money will drop off the wage bill next season which will help. All the lads they paid to go out on loan, Wood, Shelvey, Fernandez with some sales added on. Couple of new headline sponsors and increased TV money will see not have to do too much to sign 2-3, maybe 4 first teamers from outside the PL/1 year left. 
 

Be daft to sell anyone who’s played regularly this season IMO unless they kick up a stink. 

 

At some point I can't help seeing ASM as that one. Not sure he'll ever be a first teamer for the top teams, but he's still young, and definitely a high impact player if you need a DIY merchant.

[The Prophet]

Can't say I know enough about our accounts in relation to FFP to comment.

[Slim]

Basically scored 2 own goals the last 2 games

[madras]

7 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Yeh it’s not going to be enough. 
 

im not talking this summer. But I can see in a year or two us selling a talent for 60m+. If that was Botman that would be a 50m or so FFP profit. 
 

I hope we avoid that. But if we aren’t going to juice the sponsorships, we’ll need to optimise FFP sales. That means selling star players.  

Sponsorships will grow and sometimes offers for players come along that are too good to turn down. But it's not as if we are having to sell.

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, madras said:

Sponsorships will grow and sometimes offers for players come along that are too good to turn down. But it's not as if we are having to sell.

Unless we consistently outperform the top 6 in the transfer market and in coaching. Or juice sponsorships.  We will have to sell some top players to be able to compete in the transfer market and be compliant with FFP.  

 

We’ll need to at least match the bottom 2 teams in the top 6 to consistently compete. But they have a lot more FFP room to navigate. FFP makes football a closed shop unless you game it somehow.  

[magvicar]

We are the new kids on the block as far as FFP is concerned.

We have to create our own sustainable revenue and this will only happen when the players we buy get identified as some other big clubs' piece of a jigsaw and they decide to offer massive money.

 

It's about us being shrewd in the early days to gain the readies to eventually compete at the higher end.

Unfortunately the Botman's and the Bruno's are always going to be the jewels for collection by the major hitters who have already bypassed the FFP to some degree, early doors.

 

Assuming our owners are allowed to actually carry on owning us then we will always find ways around all the attempts to sabotage our push into the elite positions currently enjoyed by the usual suspects.

 

For every loyal die hard club player of quality there will always be those who have their heads turned for the Real Madrid, Barcelona, PSG type clubs....for now, until we gain better traction with an influx of overall quality that propels us into regular league and cup challenges and then we will become a catch for the bigger players.

 

As it stands we are in transition and it's a transition onto bigger things, not a flash in the pan attempt to play with the big boys for 5 minutes and then fall to pieces as we have done before.

 

As long as Newcastle United are allowed to play in the same playground as the accepted elites then we will progress very strongly. It's exciting as hell and a breath of fresh air when you consider we've been run as a bit part premier league club to cater for the elite clubs' round of games as basic general cannon fodder along with another 13 or so clubs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 9, 2023 by magvicar
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[Dokko]

PSG are a busted flush. He'd be mad to go there. Madrid, bayern or barca I'd understand, but psg are just a posh celtic. 

 

 

[madras]

3 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Unless we consistently outperform the top 6 in the transfer market and in coaching. Or juice sponsorships.  We will have to sell some top players to be able to compete in the transfer market and be compliant with FFP.  

 

We’ll need to at least match the bottom 2 teams in the top 6 to consistently compete. But they have a lot more FFP room to navigate. FFP makes football a closed shop unless you game it somehow.  

Or all 3. Sponsorships will be "juiced" but so as not to fall foul of the new rules brought in because of us.

 

Expect a few new "partners" in the summer which will be priced at the higher end of where we are.

[RodneyCisse]

We’d be able to argue and sponsors at the level of Man U or Arsenal given they’re both in europa this season.