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Sven Botman: targeting January return (Howe)


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2 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

I've done both ACL's. Left one playing football, right one skiing in Val Thorens. 

NHS fixed both, by the incomparable Mr Deehan, tho but

 

Granted I'm a 13.5 clem 60yr old but I can still hoy myself down the slopes without so much as a twinge. Having said that my arsehole goes 50p/5p on some of them. 

 

He'll be back. 

 

Deehan's doing my knee, but at the Nuffield cos I'm geet posh as owt

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

 

So you're saying that Howe injured him AGAIN?

 

Only explanation mate... or perhaps that Dr Nick has been on the case.

 

Forget the umpteen years of medical studies these guys do, N-O knows better.  :lol:

 

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2 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

Deehan's doing my knee, but at the Nuffield cos I'm geet posh as owt

 

 

 

 

His bedside manner is appalling, doesn't beat about the bush, but he's a top top surgeon ?

 

 

Ps hope it goes as well as mine. Make sure you do the physio. Did mine at the Freeman but you'll be at Jesmond tennis club, no doubt ?

 

 

 

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Just now, STM said:

 

Only explanation mate... or perhaps that Dr Nick has been on the case.

 

Forget the umpteen years of medical studies these guys do, N-O knows better.  :lol:

 

As a fully qualified armchair specialist, your damn right I do! ?

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5 minutes ago, TRC said:

Its not just a one off case though.

 

Barnes being out an additional month.

 

Anderson adding 2 months to his recovering

 

Willock multiple setbacks

 

Longstaff playing through injury when we have Miley who is more rested now.

 

Wilson/Isak needing to rotate and then playing 90 minutes when we know they couldnt do it.

 

Gordon being ruled out on the Friday playing the full 90 the next day.

 

Murphy being ruled out, coming back for about 5 minutes.

 

Burn breaking his back, and then being rushed back in when Livra was in form, he didnt break down but hasnt been the same since.

 

I feel the evidence is fairly overwhelming?

 

 

I can address a few of those with facts if you like...

 

- Barnes was out for an additional month, not because of a medical issue or something that the club had done (those pesky rubbish medical staff eh), but because the injury simply hadn't healed as fast as they initially thought it would. 

 

- Anderson, same. I spoke to his Dad recently who just said it was a really frustrating time... took ages to heal. Not sure what you want our medical staff to do about that.

 

- Murphy was going to need surgery either way... it was just a matter of when. It just happened to reoccur in the first match back, but it's pretty common for a player with that injury to attempt to play on until the problem reoccurs. Jacob requested to postpone surgery so he could help the team, tested his shoulder prior to making himself available for selection, but it obviously didn't work. Not sure, again, why that has to be anyone's fault... doesn't seem to me like it caused any particular harm in attempting to get a few more games out of him.

 

I know about those three + Sven's injury from the horses mouth, or from people pretty much adjacent to them. The others, I have no idea.

 

 

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Feel terrible for him. 

 

Literally the only good news so far in our injury crisis was that nothing had happened that would impact next season yet and Tonali is only going to miss two games. That's out the window now though.

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3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

There’s literally no way we let him play with any kind of ACL tear. 

 

Of course we would. Our manager an medical team are amateurs. I've been googling for like half an hour, now I know more than them about complex medical issues.:lol:

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12 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:


It is shambolic, Howe has also said he is playing Longstaff too with an injury. 
 

You have to wonder how many of these players are either being rushed back from injury or forced to play when they are not 100% fit.

I have news for you mate... 90% of players in the premier league right now are playing with some kind of injury... some ailment. Some worse than others. Practically nobody is 100% fit. That's the nature of professional sport.

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1 minute ago, STM said:

 

Of course we would. Our manager a medical team are amateurs. I've been googling for like half an hour, now I know more than them about complex medical issues.:lol:


Equip me with Chat GPT and I’d easily replace our entire medical team :bluestar:

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If it's a fresh injury, as Hope says, does that mean it's not a recurrence of the original one? I.e. not something that's down to the medical Department?

 

Perhaps I'm not understanding this properly though.

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Nice to see how quickly this has been used as a stick to beat the management team with.

 

If a specialist, multiple specialists from what our only actual ITK on this has said, all said he doesn't need surgery, what exactly do you expect Howe to do? Assume he knows more than the actual specialists and ignore them because he "doesn't look right" and send a young lad for major surgery?

 

As if any of you had a single clue about why Botman looked off his game beyond vibes. You've retrofitted this to fit a pre-existing agenda and it's so obvious :lol:

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Just now, Abacus said:

If it's a fresh injury, as Hope says, does that mean it's not a recurrence of the original one? I.e. not something that's down to the medical Department?

 

Perhaps I'm not understanding this properly though.

 

Even if it is a re-occurrence (I've asked, haven't heard back yet), it still doesn't mean it's our medical department's fault. Multiple specialists had all signed him off.

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6 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

I have news for you mate... 90% of players in the premier league right now are playing with some kind of injury... some ailment. Some worse than others. Practically nobody is 100% fit. That's the nature of professional sport.

 

Yep, the old pain killing injection is pretty commonplace.

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Just now, Abacus said:

If it's a fresh injury, as Hope says, does that mean it's not a recurrence of the original one? I.e. not something that's down to the medical Department?

 

Perhaps I'm not understanding this properly though.

 

That's my reading of it.

 

What I will say, before anyone else does, there's a chance that the club will say this to cover their tracks because the optics aren't good.

 

But the key part is that none of us know. Some of us are jumping to conclusions.

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