Sven Botman

[STM]

If our midfield is making an average defender in Burn look terrible, it's equally as capable of making an outstanding defender in Botman look average.

 

Let's not forget Schars performance against Luton or Trippiers spell earlier in the season.

 

I've seen enough shite Newcastle sides to know that a side which is wide open can make any defence look like mugs.

 

When we lose the ball, we could do with not immediately have to be dealing with a 3v3 at the back.... its also coupled with the least pro active goalkeeper ever.

[ExiledGeordie]

8 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

His passing was off for a lot of yesterday I thought. Even when it wasn’t to Bournemouth. A lot of the time it was fizzed in about waist height to someone who had a man marking them  

 

I know pace is an expensive commodity and perhaps it’s a lazy and obvious comparison. But whilst I think Botman is a better technician and ‘defender’. We could really do with someone like van De Ven on that side. Especially when Burn plays. That is such a slow left sided pairing. He has been noticeably and understandably sluggish since the injury. 
 

We really need some pace adding to the back 4 in the summer. Not sure who comes out? As Schar and Botman have been quality and Trippier is our talisman. I’m not sure we’d spend a good chunk on yet another left back, either. Plus we know Howe, and most managers for that matter. Are not keen on rotating the back 4. 
 

But this season really highlighted the need for more depth and genuine options. Across all positions. 

I think the problem is he’s finding his feet and lacks that yard of pace post injury in a side with absolute zero pace across the entire midfield and defence unless Tino is at left back. We are so exposed due to a lack of speed at the moment that teams are exploring that.

[ExiledGeordie]

3 minutes ago, STM said:

If our midfield is making an average defender in Burn look terrible, it's equally as capable of making an outstanding defender in Botman look average.

 

Let's not forget Schars performance against Luton or Trippiers spell earlier in the season.

 

I've seen enough shite Newcastle sides to know that a side which is wide open can make any defence look like mugs.

 

When we lose the ball, we could do with not immediately have to be dealing with a 3v3 at the back.... its also coupled with the least pro active goalkeeper ever.

Spot on, the midfield is all over the place at the minute, we must be an absolute dream to place against, players literally licking their lips. One ball through or a bit of pace and a team is steaming through on the defence. 

[Lush Vlad]

Yeah. That’s fair. Although he has never been quick and it is now being even more exposed for a number of reasons. 
 

We only have pace in our front three, currently. 

[Kid Icarus]

5 minutes ago, STM said:

If our midfield is making an average defender in Burn look terrible, it's equally as capable of making an outstanding defender in Botman look average.

 

Let's not forget Schars performance against Luton or Trippiers spell earlier in the season.

 

I've seen enough shite Newcastle sides to know that a side which is wide open can make any defence look like mugs.

 

When we lose the ball, we could do with not immediately have to be dealing with a 3v3 at the back.... its also coupled with the least pro active goalkeeper ever.

I was going to mention our first relegation season yesterday. That defence of Beye, Coloccini, Bassong, Enrique has 3 of the better/best players in their position we've seen in the PL era. They looked shocking that season because their protection was the likes of Smith, Butt, Geremi, Nolan, Barton, who left them exposed time and time again. 

 

 

Edited February 18, 2024 by Kid Icarus

[ExiledGeordie]

Just now, Lush Vlad said:

Yeah. That’s fair. Although he has never been quick and it is now being even more exposed for a number of reasons. 
 

We only have pace in our front three, currently. 

William Galas was one of my favoured defenders in his prime, pace to burn against the very best. Tino is pretty nippy to be fair when he plays. 

[Kanj]

Tbh I thought he looked quicker than he has in ages. Just so happens he’s chasing quicker players. 

[joeyt]

Hasn't looked anywhere close what we saw last season since he came back from injury

 

The midfield can be an excuse but individually he's looked way out of form

[Kanj]

Doesn’t look at all the commanding brute force he was last season. 

[Sibierski]

I would not be surprised if he’s not fully recovered from knee injury, and he has surgery before season ends. 

[joeyt]

An absolute shocker

[Dan]

Shite

[Ronson333]

He’s been shocking tonight, gave the ball away again.

[nemtizz]

Lascelles IN. 

[Pearljam10]

Shite

[Pilko]

I really hope tonight's just a very rare shit show from him. He's been the absolute pits here, nowhere near his usual levels.

[Guest reefatoon]

Just now, Pilko said:

I really hope tonight's just a very rare shit show from him. He's been the absolute pits here, nowhere near his usual levels.

They all have really.

[Elliottman]

Confidence clearly shot.

[Ben]

TBF I don't think he's ever played in a game where he was so exposed 

[joeyt]

4 minutes ago, Ben said:

TBF I don't think he's ever played in a game where he was so exposed 

 

He's brought it on himself though with some suicidal passing

[Minhosa]

Worst game for us imho.

[Myleftboot]

Wow.

[TheBrownBottle]

23 minutes ago, Pilko said:

I really hope tonight's just a very rare shit show from him. He's been the absolute pits here, nowhere near his usual levels.

He’s been pants since he came back from injury in the main.  Was imperious before it - I’m hoping that he’s still not fully recovered. 

[Lush Vlad]

Turns like the Costa Concordia at the minute. Sluggish as fuck. 

[Lush Vlad]

37 minutes ago, Pilko said:

I really hope tonight's just a very rare shit show from him. He's been the absolute pits here, nowhere near his usual levels.

Not that bad. But he’s been mainly poor since coming back from injury.