macphisto Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Just now, Manxst said: Man City bought the likes of Bellamy, Bridge etc in the year after their takeover, then spent more in the following years once the club grew as a result. It’s impossible to go and spend all the money in one go like you’re suggesting- for one thing, most ‘elite level’ players (Haaland, Mbappe etc) wouldn’t go near us right now, despite the cash available, as they would have better offers elsewhere. We MIGHT have a chance with the likes of Nunez, but even he will probably have better offers in terms of established teams wanting him, and look to go there rather than to us. The 20-30 bracket are those players who might well be elite players in a few years, and can grow with us- the Raphinhas etc. Sprinkle those with a 40m Bruno here and there, and the future of the club will be good going forward. I totally agree on players like Bridge and Bellamy who would be a lot more than £30 million in today's market. £200 million is not all of our money in one go, far from it. I can't give suggestions as I don't know enough about other leagues but I'm sure there are a fair few players of Bruno's standard we could get and that is what we should be looking for. As I said in my last post, interesting summer ahead but I think we will all be pleasantly surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 I’ve been told we pretty much have 4 deals almost pretty much done for the summer already and that we will spend close to 200m with player sales included. I assume one of those 4 is Targett… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Stop teasing.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, Likelylad said: I mean tbf, you’d like to think that they’re willing to spend atleast 100 million if they want to actually compete at the top end of the table. Add on to that whatever they bring in from selling the likes of Gayle, Almiron etc. Say 50 million. I’m quietly confident of a good summer. We should put a 500k bid in for Hamza Choudhury. Just to make a point of we’re coming from to where we’re going. Apart from maybe Almiron, we'd be lucky if we could offload some of the deadwood without having to pay for part of their contracts as part of the transfer agreement. There's absolutely zero chance of us raking in anything close to 50m in transfer fees unless one of our better players attract interest from someone and we are willing to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Conjo said: Apart from maybe Almiron, we'd be lucky if we could offload some of the deadwood without having to pay for part of their contracts as part of the transfer agreement. There's absolutely zero chance of us raking in anything close to 50m in transfer fees unless one of our better players attract interest from someone and we are willing to sell. Think Almiron, Hayden and Lascelles could get us about 30 million. Obviously not the real dead wood but certainly expendable if we are upgrading in the summer. Edited April 10, 2022 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, LFEE said: 3 hours ago, Yorkie said: Would love Abraham. Had a brilliant season for Roma, he just gets on the end of chances. We don’t make any though. Look at the service Wood has received Fair point completely. We need a creator just as much as we need a converter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Dybala (my delusional dream) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, HTT II said: I’ve been told we pretty much have 4 deals almost pretty much done for the summer already and that we will spend close to 200m with player sales included. I assume one of those 4 is Targett… Only 61 days until we find out… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 44 minutes ago, macphisto said: I totally agree on players like Bridge and Bellamy who would be a lot more than £30 million in today's market. £200 million is not all of our money in one go, far from it. I can't give suggestions as I don't know enough about other leagues but I'm sure there are a fair few players of Bruno's standard we could get and that is what we should be looking for. As I said in my last post, interesting summer ahead but I think we will all be pleasantly surprised. Can’t see a Bridge type going for over 30m when Targett can be got for 15m? Anyway, hope that you’re right- I’m sure we’ll have a good summer whatever happens. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, Manxst said: Can’t see a Bridge type going for over 30m when Targett can be got for 15m? Anyway, hope that you’re right- I’m sure we’ll have a good summer whatever happens. ? Targett IS a Bridge type. Both mid 20’s solid English left backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Loads of frees to build a squad with... Kamara Lingard Eriksen Rudiger Origi Dembele Sergio Asenjo Dybala Luiz Felipe Alessio Romagnoli MBappe Florian Grillitsch Dan-Axel Zagadou Don't even need to spend a penny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Just now, kingxlnc said: Targett IS a Bridge type. Both mid 20’s solid English left backs. I know. That was my point, although granted Targett is a few years younger (Bridge was 29 when he joined Man City for 12m) and not an international per se. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: Targett IS a Bridge type. Both mid 20’s solid English left backs. Bridge was involved around the England setup for a long time, just checked and he had 36 appearances as a starter and sub. Anyone with that type of profile would now be a lot more than £30 million. As much as I'm happy with Targett, his profile is nothing like Bridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, macphisto said: Bridge was involved around the England setup for a long time, just checked and he had 36 appearances as a starter and sub. Anyone with that type of profile would now be a lot more than £30 million. As much as I'm happy with Targett, his profile is nothing like Bridge. Aye, there was a short while when Bridge was ahead of Cole on merit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, madras said: Aye, there was a short while when Bridge was ahead of Cole on merit. And that's when Cole was considered one of the best fullbacks in the world. I don't know if this would correspond with his decline as a player but it felt like he was never the same after Terry went with his girlfriend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, macphisto said: And that's when Cole was considered one of the best fullbacks in the world. I don't know if this would correspond with his decline as a player but it felt like he was never the same after Terry went with his girlfriend. I definitely think so, seems like he fell out of love with the game through that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Whitley mag said: Think Almiron, Hayden and Lascelles could get us about 30 million. Obviously not the real dead wood but certainly expendable if we are upgrading in the summer. Exactly my thinking plus Clark, Lewis and Gayle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Likelylad said: Exactly my thinking plus Clark, Lewis and Gayle. We'd be lucky to find anyone willing to take Gayle and Clark on a free imo. Lewis and Hayden, who even we couldn't justify a squad place for, maybe £5m each from a mid-top CL club or newly promoted PL team? Most likely they'll have better options though. Maybe I'm overly pessimistic, but if we manage to get rid of Clark, Lewis, Gayle, Hendrick, Hayden, Dummett, Krafth and one of Lascelles/Schar, while obviosuly trimming the wage bill quite a bit, in terms of transfer fees to re-invest we'd maybe sit with ~£20m in total? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Find it difficult to believe Clark wouldn’t have suitors in the Championship. He surely walks into most teams in that division if we’re being honest. All depends if he’s willing to move and we can reach a settlement on his wages. I’d be happy with just three signings in the summer if they’re all of real quality; signings that would go straight into the starting 11. The reason for that is that I think this is going to be a tricky window, as we have a lot of players to potentially move on and it’s not going to be straightforward to finalise those outgoing transfers. We also need to make a decision on contacts sooner or later - Schar, Longstaff, Dummett etc which will be indicative of our strategy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 I’m probably being overly optimistic tbh but we sold Grant Hanley for around 3.5m. Lacelles must be least worth 10. Gayle if fit guarantees a club atleast 10-15 in the Championship. We should be able to generate some coin to reinvest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Maybe Bruce will come in for Clark saying he played him over the likes of Schar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 I count 10 players that could easily be shipped out in the summer. Not all of them will command a fee of any reasonable size but I think 40/50m wouldn't seem ridiculous. Most of that from Hayden, Almiron, Lascelles, Lewis. Not saying I think 10 players will leave but can't say I'd be shocked if that were the case. Easily 6 new players needed both for the first 11 and for cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Darlow £3-5m Woodman £4-5m Gillespie £2-300k Krafth £3-4m Clark £2-3m Lascelles £5-8m Fernandez £2-3m Schar £free (Contract) Dummett £free (Contract) Lewis £7-10m Hayden £7-10m Shelvey £5-6m Hendrick £1-2m Longstaff £free (Contract) Ritchie £500k Murphy £4-6m Almiron £10-15m Wood £10-15m Gayle £500k-1m Wilson £15-20m If we're lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 I’d be surprised if any of the following were here come September… Darlow Woodman Lewis Clark Fernandez Hayden Gayle Ritchie M Longstaff Dummett May also see Miggy and Murphy leave I think we’ll be looking at a 25 man squad of Dubravka, new GK, Gillespie Trippier, Krafth, Manquillo, Targett, Schar, Burn, Lascelles, new CB Shelvey, Bruno, Joelinton, S Longstaff, Willock, New CM ASM, Fraser, Wilson, Wood, new AM, new winger, new striker (established), new striker (up and coming) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) I think of the players we will be looking to offload the only ones we might struggle to shift for any money at all will be Gayle (35k a week) and Hendrick (40k a week) we might see them both loaned out rather than sold. The others (Lewis, Clark, Hayden, Krafth) should at least command a fee, somewhere around 10m for the lot of them.. more importantly we get their wages shifted off our books. We won’t see a massive overhaul of players, the 6 above at most maybe 7 if we go for a new GK. Edited April 10, 2022 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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