More transfer rumours

[Guest HTT II]

We need pace and goals all over the pitch and someone to protect the midfield defensively.

[Guest HTT II]

I reckon we could be in for that WBA ‘keeper on a free…

[thorin]

4 minutes ago, Rich said:

 

Remember thorin for worst poster 2021/22, folks.

Love it! Ain't nuttin like an omelette.
 

2 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Diaby

Phillips/Bissouma

Lodi/Targett

CF

Henderson 

Botman

 

Would fill most of our needs. Would probably cost 150-175 million though - unless you can get some on loan-to-buy.

 

 

 

And would take the budget to what looks like 3 windows

...AND there's no pace with Botman, only ball playing class. Still need a CB and DM with pace to cover.

 

 

Edited May 27, 2022 by thorin

[The Prophet]

Anyone that doesn't think the January window was a success is either being deliberately obtuse or they didn't watch much of us from February onward.

[RodneyCisse]

By his logic though we’re going to end up blowing our budget on Diaby?

[Smal]

3 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

Diaby

Phillips/Bissouma

Lodi/Targett

CF

Henderson 

Botman

 

Would fill most of our needs. Would probably cost 150-175 million though - unless you can get some on loan-to-buy.

 

 

 

Phillips would be tailor made for what I posted above.

 

Not seen Diaby play. How's his work rate?

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Hope we get that Diaby, like.

 

Don't like Edwards but he's begrudgingly one I'd listen to above others. 

 

New thread senses are tingling. 

Steady on with the new threads

[AyeDubbleYoo]

33 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

I’m just as excited to get Ashworth confirmed as I am regarding any signing tbh, really hope we can push that through soon.

This is a funny season in a way. We’ve got our forever-manager and some great signings before we’ve got the underlying structure of the club sorted. 
 

Of course you have to do that because you go down without those things. But I guess we’ll have to be patient if superstars don’t arrive as quickly as we might like.
 

There will still be situations like in January, where we think we have a player and the goalposts get moved etc. We don’t have the perfect recruitment machine in place yet. 

[thorin]

Just now, The Prophet said:

Anyone that doesn't think the January window was a success is either being deliberately obtuse or they didn't watch much of us from February onward.

Have no idea whether or not you're referring to me, as I haven't mentioned anything from Jan. besides Wood. If people in here thinks that paying £25 mill and what looks to be at the top of our alleged salary cap. was a GOOD or the BEST buy we could, you're more delusional than me - stating the fact.

[ponsaelius]

In terms of sales I'm struggling to see us raising much cash. Mainly due to age and contract of the players.

 

Darlow - £4 million

Woodman - £4 million

Hayden - £8 million

Clark - free/subsided loan

Fernandez - free/nominal

Gayle - free/nominal

Ritchie - free/nominal

Hendrick - free/subsidised loan

Manquillo or Lewis - £5m- ish

 

Then you could possibly get £5-10 million for either Almiron or Murphy with a winger coming in. Maybe you could see Shelvey go for similar if we sign another CM - or Lascelles if we sign 2 CBs. 

 

But maximum you're looking at is £20-30 million if we're looking to minimise the amount of squad turnover and sign 5-6 players.

 

We're in a really shit position due to lack of investment previously. It's like starting from zero.

[thorin]

1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

This is a funny season in a way. We’ve got our forever-manager and some great signings before we’ve got the underlying structure of the club sorted. 
 

Of course you have to do that because you go down without those things. But I guess we’ll have to be patient if superstars don’t arrive as quickly as we might like.
 

There will still be situations like in January, where we think we have a player and the goalposts get moved etc. We don’t have the perfect recruitment machine in place yet. 

It's nothing new here tho., if you look at all the big teams it's the same. RM and Barca overpays regularly to get the players they want, just how the machine runs. PSG, City, Utd (who else would have paid 80 for Maguire?) etc. But of course it might have helped going another route, only time will tell if Ashworth is able to. However I think the price basically remains the same, but the approach and valuation will be different. So when one rely on the valuation of a player it suddenly makes sense to pay what they ask for.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, thorin said:

Have no idea whether or not you're referring to me, as I haven't mentioned anything from Jan. besides Wood. If people in here thinks that paying £25 mill and what looks to be at the top of our alleged salary cap. was a GOOD or the BEST buy we could, you're more delusional than me - stating the fact.

I think the consensus is that Wood turned out to be a poor signing but it’s understandable that we didn’t want to take any chances with another player who we might not get. 
 

Like I said above, we don’t have a well oiled and experienced recruitment department yet, and we didn’t have the luxury of time. 

[The Prophet]

Just now, thorin said:

Have no idea whether or not you're referring to me, as I haven't mentioned anything from Jan. besides Wood. If people in here thinks that paying £25 mill and what looks to be at the top of our alleged salary cap. was a GOOD or the BEST buy we could, you're more delusional than me - stating the fact.

 

You're taking one signing in isolation, while ignoring the rest of the business that was done to criticise "the process". That process contributed to Champions League form in the second half of the season.

[The Prophet]

9 minutes ago, jack j said:

Mad how all the twitterites take Edwards word as gospel cos its potentially positive news

Just block the cunt and be done with it ffs

 

This.

[Happinesstan]

17 minutes ago, thorin said:

So we're trusting the process which will leave us with Wood up top again, are we?

Still amazed people don't understand how the market works, even if we bid the same amount as Villa, Sevilla might have declined...

Fact is however, we need more than what we most likely are able to fill with the rumoured cash available, unless they get a Saudi club to buy someone for inflated prices!

We NEED a LB and a RW, with cover for Wilson. I don't see that as particularly challenging.. Anything after that is a bonus.

 

[thorin]

4 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

You're taking one signing in isolation, while ignoring the rest of the business that was done to criticise "the process". That process contributed to Champions League form in the second half of the season.

That's all your interpretation, I just mentioned the process and Wood in the same post.

Adding to the "process" right now is the fact we seemingly want Ashworth in right away, which might be the reason for holding out on players signing for other clubs.

 

 

Edited May 27, 2022 by thorin

[The Prophet]

Just now, thorin said:

That's all your interpretation, I just mentioned the process and Wood in the same post.

 

Bore off man.

[Happinesstan]

16 minutes ago, Jack27 said:

 

I'm guessing the first price quoted will be inflated by the time he lands.

 

[thorin]

2 minutes ago, Happinesstan said:

We NEED a LB and a RW, with cover for Wilson. I don't see that as particularly challenging.. Anything after that is a bonus.

 

Forgot the CB with pace, Howe wants a higher line. We're doomed if we go with the pace we have now to the midline.

[arnonel]

Order of priority for me:

1. LB
2. RW
3. Forward
4. CB

We get good options in those positions, I am happy to get a few youth in who can grow into other positions too.

 

[Happinesstan]

12 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Anyone that doesn't think the January window was a success is either being deliberately obtuse or they didn't watch much of us from February onward.

Or didn't watch us before. People who didn't watch before don't know that we didn't even play the game of football.

[Happinesstan]

1 minute ago, thorin said:

Forgot the CB with pace, Howe wants a higher line. We're doomed if we go with the pace we have now to the midline.

Use Offside Trap, man.

[thorin]

1 minute ago, Happinesstan said:

Use Offside Trap, man.

You play too much FIFA/FM brohan, he he. Our line has been shit unfortunately. Well, it became better after Burn, but it's not working :P

[Happinesstan]

2 minutes ago, thorin said:

You play too much FIFA/FM brohan, he he. Our line has been shit unfortunately. Well, it became better after Burn, but it's not working :P

I really don't. It's just one of the legends I associate with the game. I can't get into it these days. Too much worrying about upsetting a player for not complimenting his haircut. Their attempts at reality remove the gaming aspect from it.

I don't see how you can say defence isn't working. It works very well, aside from a few rash moments. Those rash moments can be better eliminated by increasing our ability up front.

[thorin]

1 minute ago, Happinesstan said:

I really don't. It's just one of the legends I associate with the game. I can't get into it these days. Too much worrying about upsetting a player for not complimenting his haircut. Their attempts at reality remove the gaming aspect from it.

I don't see how you can say defence isn't working. It works very well, aside from a few rash moments. Those rash moments can be better eliminated by increasing our ability up front.

 

True, but any offside traps we've tried setting has not worked. It's been all of them really. I mean, sure it can be harsh, and I might be a couple of steps further as we're aiming to go for Europe. However, when you start pushing that line further up the field we're gonna have serious issues.

Let's not forget that we've been somewhat lucky too, imho.

If it's because of the combination play of having so big gaps since we were still focused on the defence I'm not sure, but there are definitively matches were I've been thinking "oh no, not this again" and just waited for a goal against, however it never popped as we've been lucky.