The College Dropout Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: I've never done it but I imagine uprooting settled families is very difficult and obviously an obstacle to NUFC's squad planners atm, and I wouldn't blame anyone getting paid farcical amounts (relative to their output/value) for staying put. Dwight Gayle owes us nothing. However, presumably it's significantly less difficult to up sticks when you're absolutely loaded and can afford any amount of assistance you could possibly wish for to ease that transition. Plus you'd expect most Championship clubs these days to be professional enough to help new signings with that sort of thing too. It would be more difficult with loans, I imagine, cos you can't commit to the new area and it probably feels like you're a little bit in limbo. But unless Clark, Ritchie and Hendrick are going to be satisfied with a very nominal wage post-NUFC - or just plan to retire at 33/33/32 - I'd expect them to have at least some motivation to leave Newcastle in favour of more than zero football. Gayle will be hardest to find a suitable move for as he's older than that lot. Them and their agents will have done their maths. Jeff Hendrick is rumoured to be paid 4.2m for the next 2 years at Newcastle. If he can only get £2m over the next period and no gurantee of a contract after - he should stay. Also - eventually we'll want to get back *some* of his wages back. So we'll loan him out and subsidise his wages anyway. SO he'll play eventually. He'll not blink first if he has any sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Broja on loan would be a good option for this season at least. I'm not sure that Chelsea will want to do us any favours though. Threat to the big six and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Everton in for Broja. Would be a shame to see that but can understand they are going to need another ST just as much as we are now. Depends how much we want him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Cronky said: Broja on loan would be a good option for this season at least. I'm not sure that Chelsea will want to do us any favours though. Threat to the big six and all that. We are no where near being enough of a threat for it to be a factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Cronky said: Broja on loan would be a good option for this season at least. I'm not sure that Chelsea will want to do us any favours though. Threat to the big six and all that. A loan would be absolutely fine, however I would like the final fee (option to buy) to be agreed beforehand. Dont want another Willock scenario whereby he came to us worth fairly little and then because of what he did his value rocketed up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Cronky said: Broja on loan would be a good option for this season at least. I'm not sure that Chelsea will want to do us any favours though. Threat to the big six and all that. Maybe if Everton get Broja we get Calvert Lewin ? either way - not fussed I have trust in what we do and what Eddie Howe and the team want if it doesn’t work out , I am sure we will look to replace / improve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, STM said: We are no where near being enough of a threat for it to be a factor. Not in the short term, no. Broja wouldn't launch us into the top six. But we are a long-term threat. The financial stability of the top six does rest on them getting regular European football. I assume other clubs are interested in Broja as well, in which case Chelsea might say to him you can leave, but not to the Mags. We haven't signed a player from the top six yet, either on loan or through buying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 It would be a strange turn of events if Broja went to Everton and then we signed DCL. Everton may be desperate to get some money in while they can. No doubt the FFP guys are breathing down their necks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 48 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Everton in for Broja. Since its Chelsea they will surely prefer to deal with fat frank than us, shame as I'd like to see Broja here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, STM said: If Dan Ashworth can't out manoeuvre a skint Everton, something is seriously amiss. Yes Lampard might know Broja but if we lay down our plan on the table, in comparison to Evertons and he decides to join Everton, well perhaps he's not a player we should be persuing. True, but it would be stupid not to acknowledge that Lampard might have an advantage here with his previous Chelsea relationships. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: In terms of Clark, he turned down the chance to go to Boro in January on loan, hardly have to his family would he. Ever been to boro? It’d be like the hunger games where he went to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: We'll ahve to let players go for free and subsidise their contracts until their term with us is finished. Exactly the way I see it - you all of a sudden get new multi billionaire owners in overnight and kick off a new project when the books are padded out with mundane players, you can’t expect them to run out like rats from a sinking ship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 30 minutes ago, Nine said: Since its Chelsea they will surely prefer to deal with fat frank than us, shame as I'd like to see Broja here Depends who they think will get the better out of him.. I know which manager and coaching staff I'd want one of my young players to play under.... and it ain't Frank lampard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 47 minutes ago, Cronky said: Not in the short term, no. Broja wouldn't launch us into the top six. But we are a long-term threat. The financial stability of the top six does rest on them getting regular European football. I assume other clubs are interested in Broja as well, in which case Chelsea might say to him you can leave, but not to the Mags. We haven't signed a player from the top six yet, either on loan or through buying. We haven’t signed a player from the top six because we haven’t tried surely - not because they won’t sell. we’re years away from being a top six team yet and I’m personally fine with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: Depends who they think will get the better out of him.. I know which manager and coaching staff I'd want one of my young players to play under.... and it ain't Frank lampard Really nice thought but I think they’ll prefer to help fatty out personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 While the idea of the loan structure is great for small clubs or in our case in previous years, an owner with zero ambition, why should we develop players belonging to another club, a rival club.. a loan is fine if there’s an obligation or option to buy at the end of it, but not if we’re just doing their work for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 surprised gayle hasn't moved on tbh,seen no interest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: Depends who they think will get the better out of him.. I know which manager and coaching staff I'd want one of my young players to play under.... and it ain't Frank lampard They wont be keen to loan to us anyway and thats without the links that Lampard has to that club, sadly Everton have a massive advantage with this deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Wonder if its because DCL is off they want him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, astraguy said: surprised gayle hasn't moved on tbh,seen no interest Don’t think anyone can afford his wages. Surprised we haven’t discussed the moral decisions around him not moving on more in here to be honest. Edited July 4, 2022 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, astraguy said: surprised gayle hasn't moved on tbh,seen no interest As little as he offers I suppose there's a risk in moving him on before we get in any new forward players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: As little as he offers I suppose there's a risk in moving him on before we get in any new forward players. Dont think thats the problem. Hes on good money. Clubs dont want to pay him that amount and the player himself wont give his money away late in his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Not sure I buy the reports saying we were going to slow down so Eddie could assess our attacking options. What does he have to assess, apart from Anderson? We’re surely working extremely hard to make some deals happen. If we’re really in for Broja it’ll come out soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, nufc123 said: Dont think thats the problem. Hes on good money. Clubs dont want to pay him that amount and the player himself wont give his money away late in his career. I don't think it's unusual for players to be loaned out with only a proportion of their wages paid or for the selling club to subsidise the player's wage. I doubt that would be a major problem. We're probably just in the process of negotiation or waiting for other deals to go through first. There will be ways to move those players on rather than just having them sit their contracts out outside of the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, astraguy said: surprised gayle hasn't moved on tbh,seen no interest He's the one I thought would've been snapped up by now. His lengthy contract here may be the issue, depends how motivated he is to leave. Says alot about Hayden that he clearly wanted to leave for first team football and did so fairly sharpish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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