Guest Biggsbond14 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Some of the comments should be on Twitter , being written off for pace etc “ good enough for Brazil but not us” get a fucking grip embarrassing stuff. No need for him to be thrust straight in we have a winning team and will start very soon geez ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I'm genuinely baffled about the pace thing, can anyone explain how they came to this conclusion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Numbers said: I'm genuinely baffled about the pace thing, can anyone explain how they came to this conclusion? Yeah, it is like part from watching him to try to get into decent pressing positions and part thinking what it can be like to come into a tight game when the opposition team are playing at a really high tempo. You hear about players needing to get into the rhythm of a game and sometimes that can be easy, like say against Everton when we had a comfy lead and their players were really stodgy, then say today when Villa were hitting quick passes and still charging on. It is not a criticism of him in any way. Just that in the context of today's game, he was a little behind the pace of the play. There was a bit where he went pressing high up the pitch, but was like 5 yards away from any meaningful position on each press. Nothing against him at all, just that can happen when you have sat on your arse for 90 minutes and then been told to get on and you really want to make an impact, but end up wasting your energy. It was a really throw away minor thing that is getting blown out of proportion. If you carry on reading my post, you see that I point out that he nailed every single in possession play he had. Was just off the ball, he wasn't quite on it given the difficult circumstances. Edited February 13, 2022 by David Edgar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Can´t blame eddie for staying with the same midfield, if, as it seems, bruno is going to occupy willock´s position, it will be hard for him to displace him. If willock gets a goal he will be on fire again, he is getting great late runs in on goal and it´s just a matter of time, probably needs bruno´s through balls to help him out. Shelvey had a very good game today, even tracked his runners, so i cab´t fault him at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, buzza said: Can´t blame eddie for staying with the same midfield, if, as it seems, bruno is going to occupy willock´s position, it will be hard for him to displace him. If willock gets a goal he will be on fire again, he is getting great late runs in on goal and it´s just a matter of time, probably needs bruno´s through balls to help him out. Shelvey had a very good game today, even tracked his runners, so i cab´t fault him at all. He should start against West Ham Wilocks performance wasn't that good today to keep a 40million signing out of the team. Not saying he was bad mind. Edited February 13, 2022 by WillingtonMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, WillingtonMag said: He should start against West Ham Wilocks performance wasn't that good today to keep a 40million signing out of the team. Not saying he was bad mind. Willock had a great first half? Best he's had in months. I reckon we see the same midfield 3 again against West Ham. They kinda deserve it and I get the argument for allowing Bruno to get up to speed. Edited February 13, 2022 by David Edgar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Just now, WillingtonMag said: He should start against West Ham Wilocks performance wasn't that good today to keep a 40million signing out of the team. Not saying he was bad mind. Price is irrelevant if someone is playing well. A change will come, whether that be form, injury, formation, suspension etc, but it’s not deserved right now to drop any of the midfield three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I agree Willock was better but I think Bruno comes in next week , Shelvey needs a rest for me . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 minute ago, David Edgar said: Willock had a great first half? Best he's had in months. I reckon we see the same midfield 3 again against West Ham. They kinda deserve it and I get the argument for allowing Bruno to get up to speed. Think great first half is pushing it like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, David Edgar said: Yeah, it is like part from watching him to try to get into decent pressing positions and part thinking what it can be like to come into a tight game when the opposition team are playing at a really high tempo. You hear about players needing to get into the rhythm of a game and sometimes that can be easy, like say against Everton when we had a comfy lead and their players were really stodgy, then say today when Villa were hitting quick passes and still charging on. It is not a criticism of him in any way. Just that in the context of today's game, he was a little behind the pace of the play. There was a bit where he went pressing high up the pitch, but was like 5 yards away from any meaningful position on each press. Nothing against him at all, just that can happen when you have sat on your arse for 90 minutes and then been told to get on and you really want to make an impact, but end up wasting your energy. It was a really throw away minor thing that is getting blown out of proportion. If you carry on reading my post, you see that I point out that he nailed every single in possession play he had. Was just off the ball, he wasn't quite on it given the difficult circumstances. I get your point, however my take on it is that he was the only player that was pressing the ball in those situations, and it will be easy for the Villa players to pass and keep him 5 yards away no matter how fast or on the pace he would be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 The saga continues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest singintheastand Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Judging him on what? 7 minutes on the pitch? ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) Like going on a blind date and just before you've said a word the girl across the floor you're meeting up with screams fuck off ya cunt. You're an asshole. Edited February 13, 2022 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) I think he's going to be class, I just don't think athleticism or explosiveness will necessarily be his main strengths. Fairly pointless discussion anyway. Edited February 13, 2022 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I’d start him next game and get him going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Manxst said: Price is irrelevant if someone is playing well. A change will come, whether that be form, injury, formation, suspension etc, but it’s not deserved right now to drop any of the midfield three. Wilock hasn't been anything special though, he's been poor most of the season and although he has improved lately he's hardly setting the place alight is he. I mentioned the price because it it does give an indication that we rate him higher than Joe Wilock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 If he was playing amazing, making assists and scoring I might agree with you but he isn't. He's been bang average all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude20 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, buzza said: Can´t blame eddie for staying with the same midfield, if, as it seems, bruno is going to occupy willock´s position, it will be hard for him to displace him. If willock gets a goal he will be on fire again, he is getting great late runs in on goal and it´s just a matter of time, probably needs bruno´s through balls to help him out. Shelvey had a very good game today, even tracked his runners, so i cab´t fault him at all. I am surprised to read this. Bruno is leagues ahead of Willock in every possible way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Just now, Solitude20 said: I am surprised to read this. Bruno is leagues ahead of Willock in every possible way. Agree I don't get this argument at all, way people are going on you'd think Wilock was scoring screamers on weekly basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, WillingtonMag said: Wilock hasn't been anything special though, he's been poor most of the season and although he has improved lately he's hardly setting the place alight is he. I mentioned the price because it it does give an indication that we rate him higher than Joe Wilock. Price means that’s what we bought him for, and what he was sold for, not how much we rate him. See Trippier for £12m and Wood for £25m. For what it’s worth, I think we’ll see a change soon, but that’s simply because someone will need a break, otherwise why change a winning team just for the sake of it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Willock was great today, imo. Bruno will get his chance soon. Scuppered today by the injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Manxst said: Price means that’s what we bought him for, and what he was sold for, not how much we rate him. See Trippier for £12m and Wood for £25m. For what it’s worth, I think we’ll see a change soon, but that’s simply because someone will need a break, otherwise why change a winning team just for the sake of it? It isn't just for the sake of it, its because we have a better player on the bench. For the sake of it would be swapping two players of similar skill or class. We play West Ham next who are a lot better than Everton and Villa we need all the quality we have on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 It’s crap man management to drop someone who is playing well and doing the job asked of him in a team that’s just picked up 6 points in the last week. Willock has been really good recently. Bruno will get a chance. Calm the fuck down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Just now, christ said: It’s crap man management to drop someone who is playing well and doing the job asked of him in a team that’s just picked up 6 points in the last week. Willock has been really good recently. Bruno will get a chance. Calm the fuck down. Amen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Just now, christ said: It’s crap man management to drop someone who is playing well and doing the job asked of him in a team that’s just picked up 6 points in the last week. Willock has been really good recently. Bruno will get a chance. Calm the fuck down. I'm perfectly calm i just don't agree with that argument ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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