Lotus Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 He’s performed so much better then I expected and so far, way above his price tag. That becomes a burden if the recruitment team expect every player they want to be that much better than the price. You only get THAT lucky now and again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, Lotus said: He’s performed so much better then I expected and so far, way above his price tag. That becomes a burden if the recruitment team expect every player they want to be that much better than the price. You only get THAT lucky now and again. Yeah I was expecting Cabaye but he's so much better than that even. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Yeah I was expecting Cabaye but he's so much better than that even. I was hoping for Cabaye, but he's like Cabaye AND Tiote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 A posting frenzy from Beth!!! I also think thats the first time Beth has posted other than on a Sunday. Normally theres a post to stir things up and then gone, like Keyser Soze. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Cabaye really wasn't all that. I had Bruno down as our best midfielder since Rob Lee and he's pretty comfortably already that in terms of quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Cabaye really wasn't all that. I had Bruno down as our best midfielder since Rob Lee and he's pretty comfortably already that in terms of quality. Expecting Rob Lee would have been a bit much mind. The guy was here for 10 years. Made himself a club legend. Now? It looks like we might have got exactly that. Similar circumstances and Howe told him that the flights to Newcastle were actually quicker than flights to London, because you spend less time circling. Edited August 9, 2022 by Happinesstan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Expecting Rob Lee would have been a bit much mind. The guy was here for 10 years. Made himself a club legend. I'm talking purely in terms of quality at this stage and on that basis I did expect him to be our best midfielder since Rob Lee. Watching his highlights the quality was clear as day. Edited August 9, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Cabaye was very good mind just not for a great length of time by the time he left he was already declining in mobility and by the time he ended up at Crystal palace he was just a slow defensive mid who liked to do wild tackles. Not Bruno's caliber of course but he was very good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I'm talking purely in terms of quality at this stage and on that basis I did expect him to be our best midfielder since Rob Lee. Watching his highlights the quality was clear as day. I didn't really watch his highlights, tbh. EDIT Actually I did. Looked more like a Cabaye, dictating from the middle, than a Lee, who was at his best in and around the box. Edited August 9, 2022 by Happinesstan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Again, I'm just talking about in terms of quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Again, I'm just talking about in terms of quality. Yeah. I did mean to add that I wasn't judging his quality on Youtube video footage. Simply what kind of player he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Still can't quite believe how good he is and that we have him. I was pondering where he fits in our best midfielders of the last 30 years or so - I'd say he's a level or two above Cabaye from what I've seen so far. I think people tend to forget how good Rob Lee really was at his peak - he's one of those players who is a bit forgotten about (certainly outside NUFC fans). I don't know if it's simply the passage of time or if his type of central midfielder has fallen out of fashion a bit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 55 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Cabaye really wasn't all that. I had Bruno down as our best midfielder since Rob Lee and he's pretty comfortably already that in terms of quality. I really liked Cabaye at the time (and still do) but Bruno is comfortably better than him at pretty much everything besides shooting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) A layman's look at Bruno's stats and highlights was surprisingly accurate at telling us how he would be like, just with added goals. Edited August 9, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I watched tonnes of Rob Lee live. Saw virtually every home game and plenty away. This guy is better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I am struggling to think of a better footballer who has played for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) If he isn't atleast mid 80s on FIFA I'm not buying it like Edited August 9, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Apples and oranges, but just a reminder that at Rob Lee's peak (94/95, especially the first half) he got 14 goals and 8 assists in 44 games from midfield. That's a goal or assist every other game. Imagine signing someone like him now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: I am struggling to think of a better footballer who has played for us. Beardsley, Gazza, Shearer, Ginola? I'm not downplaying Bruno like, I totally get this level of hype about him because I'm thinking the same things. He's absolutely class, a player where you have to literally cite club legends and the absolute best of the best in order to think of someone better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, Minhosa said: I watched tonnes of Rob Lee live. Saw virtually every home game and plenty away. This guy is better. You're probably right from a technique/skill perspective, but they're just such different players I'm not sure it's an easy comparison to make. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, Hughesy said: Still can't quite believe how good he is and that we have him. I was pondering where he fits in our best midfielders of the last 30 years or so - I'd say he's a level or two above Cabaye from what I've seen so far. I think people tend to forget how good Rob Lee really was at his peak - he's one of those players who is a bit forgotten about (certainly outside NUFC fans). I don't know if it's simply the passage of time or if his type of central midfielder has fallen out of fashion a bit? Can't forget Rob Lee, he was the epitome of my best times supporting the club. Although Kilcline will always be my favourite Keegan signing, Lee symbolises the point that we moved on up. The fact he stayed 10 years makes him a legend. And his disallowed goal vs Brentford will remain one of life's unsolved mysteries. If Bruno can stay for ten years he'll be right there next to him. Just with a bit more flair. Cabaye was a star that had already burned brightly, in another galaxy. We got a good few years out of him, but hs legend status belongs elsewhere. When we were signing Bruno I only dared hope for a Cabaye. Now he's been here 6 months I'm dreaming of anther Rob Lee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Beardsley, Gazza, Shearer, Ginola? I'm not downplaying Bruno like, I totally get this level of hype about him because I'm thinking the same things. He's absolutely class, a player where you have to literally cite club legends and the absolute best of the best in order to think of someone better. To a certain degree it's how you quantify a footballer which means different things to different people. He may not have the scoring prowess of those mentioned but some of the things he can do with a ball are just as impressive. You're going back (at least) the best part of 30 years to those players at their best form so as you say apples and oranges. It's his completeness and intelligence for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: To a certain degree it's how you quantify a footballer which means different things to different people. He may not have the scoring prowess of those mentioned but some of the things he can do with a ball are just as impressive. You're going back (at least) the best part of 30 years to those players at their best form so as you say apples and oranges. It's his completeness and intelligence for me. Yeah, he has a completeness to his game (goals aside) that it's hard to pin on anyone else, but that in itself is just his strength like the others have different strengths too. I think you would say Beardsley for example makes up for it in the skills, goals, and assists department, where he lacks the defensive side that Bruno has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 29 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: I am struggling to think of a better footballer who has played for us. That's mental come off it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) I mean Beardsley is one of my favourite footballers of all time. I think that's probably the thing that distinguishes Bruno is that we've not really had a player like him ever, so he doesn't have an obvioius comparator. 'Better' is quite a tricky concept to nail down too. Edited August 9, 2022 by Shays Given Tim Flowers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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