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Matt Targett set to miss remainder of season with hamstring injury (Howe)


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5 hours ago, greydos said:


I don’t think Joe Gomez has a goal in his life and he’s on the verge of winning the Quad, having played 70-odd games for Liverpool. He didn’t get forward today either. I’m fairly certain Targett can do a similar job for our team/squad the next 5 years. 

 

 

 

Joe Gomez is a centreback. 

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1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

Joe Gomez is a centreback. 

Yes, as I acknowledged above. The point stands though. Klopp can rely on a player playing right back who has never scored a goal, in one of the most difficult and legendary end of season run-ins of all time. If this Liverpool team can play a non-scoring player at fullback to get results against mid-table teams and succeed, so can we. 
 

 

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5 hours ago, Amir_9 said:

This lad is class. That clearance was unreal today

That’s one second in a 90 minute match? A single data point. 
 

I don’t think there is any excuse or rationale for signing a bottom 10 premier league left back when ambitions surely have to be top 8. 

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You’d sooner spend the money on the midfield and attack than splashing on a fullback. Sign him and focus elsewhere if there are budgetary concerns for ffp. 

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I think he is decent going forward. Maybe not the most technically gifted, but he can carry the ball well enough, makes some smart runs when the opportunity presents itself, got a nice pass & cross in him as well. Defensively very solid, rarely lets anyone past him, decent in the air. He is better than a bottom 10 PL left back in my eyes. Seem to be a nice guy and humble guy as well. A character we need in the dressing room.

 

Of the current left backs in the PL (excluding wing backs like Doherty, Alonso etc), I'd rate Robertson, Zinchenko and Chillwell as clearly better than him. Tavares, Castagne, Telles, Shaw, Digne, Cucurella are of similar quality to him. Difficult to say who is better than the other due to the different qualities each of them has, but I've really liked what I've seen of Targett on and off the pitch so would prefer him over the others listed.

 

There's obviously better left backs out there in the world, and we may be able to attract one here, but I'd sign Targett asap so we don't have to worry about that position and can focus all the attention on improving more critical areas in the squad.

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I think TAA, Robertson and Cancelo are making other fullbacks look worse than they are with their ridiculous offensive contributions. Targett's basic goals+assists stats from the past 4 seasons aren't that different from Kyle Walker or Luke Shaw. He's decent enough going forward but having ASM ahead of him limits him right now. Felt like he was getting forward more when ASM was out for that little spell.

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1 hour ago, Pata said:

I think TAA, Robertson and Cancelo are making other fullbacks look worse than they are with their ridiculous offensive contributions. Targett's basic goals+assists stats from the past 4 seasons aren't that different from Kyle Walker or Luke Shaw. He's decent enough going forward but having ASM ahead of him limits him right now. Felt like he was getting forward more when ASM was out for that little spell.

We are a more fluid, better side in possession with ASM off the pitch. Simply put we control games better without him. Sad but true.

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6 hours ago, Outre said:

That’s one second in a 90 minute match? A single data point. 
 

I don’t think there is any excuse or rationale for signing a bottom 10 premier league left back when ambitions surely have to be top 8. 


An excuse or rationale? ? I think some people are getting a bit ahead of themselves with the squad here. The lad has come in and contributed to forming an exceptional defensive unit which has been ridiculously good and basically kept us up. He’s exactly what we need right now. You can’t replace all the positions in the summer and the attack takes priority. Signings don’t always work too see Lucas Digne. Targett is a proper left back whose performed well. On the flip side if we do sign him and then upgrade again the season after next or before he gives us a second option at left back if someone better comes in.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Outre said:

That’s one second in a 90 minute match? A single data point. 
 

I don’t think there is any excuse or rationale for signing a bottom 10 premier league left back when ambitions surely have to be top 8. 

 

What a ridiculously simplistic way of looking at things. With that mindset, the likes of Rio Ferdinand, Jonathan Woodgate, Gini Wijnaldum, Jermaine Defoe, Michael Carrick, or indeed Lucas Digne, Coutinho, Ward-Prowse, Kalvin Phillips would never have been good enough for teams fighting at the top of the table. Targett is absolutely a top 8 left back, easily.

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I know he has zero assists, but the awareness in injury-time v Leicester to not just let the ball go for a goal-kick, or to hoof it and instead play the ball to Willock, is as good as one. Or the corner for Dan Burn’s knock down to Bruno at Southampton.

 

Once we start improving I reckon his pure assists count will improve too. 

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Targett's been solid as fuck as pointed out and I wouldn't be worried in the slightest if he was first choice next season. But if Howe wants a more attacking fullback then great. He still surely has to sign Targett for competition in that case, and I'd trust him to sell the proposition to the player too.

 

 

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Anyone who doesn’t rate this lad or don’t want us to sign him are off their had. I rewatched the game yesterday and he was our best defender and constantly played forward or progressive balls into their half. Yes he got skinned by Salah once, but again he is arguably the best footballer in the world right now and would skin anyone. Other than that he was 100% solid defensively. Sign him up, 15m would be robbery that’s how good he has been!

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I would have zero issues with bringing Targett back permanently next season, been solid since he came in. However, if Eddie and co decide to go elsewhere I fully trust them.

 

My ideal plan is Targett and Hickey for cover/cup games and to come into the team in coming years.

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11 hours ago, Outre said:

That’s one second in a 90 minute match? A single data point. 
 

I don’t think there is any excuse or rationale for signing a bottom 10 premier league left back when ambitions surely have to be top 8. 

 

There are reason for not signing Targett, but that isn't one of them. It's a ridiculous argument to say that no players in the bottom 10 clubs of the Premier League are capable of excelling in a club going for top 8. It's actually laughable that you could believe that. 

 

Its your opinion ofcourse and you're entitled to it, but your opinion in this instance is stupid.

 

By your standards if we were to finish 11th or lower (extremely likely), none of the players we have should be in this team if we want to compete for Europe. 

 

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11 hours ago, Outre said:

That’s one second in a 90 minute match? A single data point. 
 

I don’t think there is any excuse or rationale for signing a bottom 10 premier league left back when ambitions surely have to be top 8. 

Absolute bollocks.

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11 hours ago, Outre said:

That’s one second in a 90 minute match? A single data point. 
 

I don’t think there is any excuse or rationale for signing a bottom 10 premier league left back when ambitions surely have to be top 8. 

 

I would rather the bulk of the transfer budget be spent on areas where class and ability are lacking. He does not lack class or ability

 

Can be improved upon in 2-3 windows time for sure, there are other more important areas more money needs spent on. Besides, he's excelling in this team who knows what will happen with better players ahead of him on the pitch.

 

 

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I’ve changed my perspective. If we can sign a Lodi and still fund other transfers - I would.  
 

There is no point in spending the transfer fee on him if we think we’ll need to improve in a year and we have options to pursue.  
 

we should only sign players for the CL unless we have holes in the squad eg Targett is better then no one. 

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