tgarve Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, ManDoon said: I’m sure other clubs do too. No proof but it is highly irregular to maintain this level of intensity, especially players who are over 30/near 30. I’ve never seen it at elite level, they are in like 4 competitions, no Injuries, no drop offs in energy? It’s just not really rationally possible imo There’s no proof then bar message board whispers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Henderson, Trent and Robertson look high as fuck like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Not seen a team throw in the towel as much as this since us, multiple times, under Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Mcmanaman is unbearable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Sean said: Henderson, Trent and Robertson look high as fuck like Was gonna say, in the first half Robertson looked utterly unhinged. Not normal at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Is it not just the advancements seen in sports science along with the stringent detail every inch of footballers lives are now monitored? It’s not entirely unusual that James Milner can run faster now than Neil Ruddock could in 2002. It’s not much different as to why world records tend to keep being broken as the years go on. Aye, athletic world records that we now know were set juiced to the gills are still being broken because of 'improvements in sports science'. Edited May 3, 2022 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 I remember Asenjo was always considered a decent keeper and was the starter last season. I have no idea why this Rulli has replaced him. The boy is consistently unconvincing and cannot even catch the ball. 9 minutes ago, ManDoon said: I’m sure other clubs do too. No proof but it is highly irregular to maintain this level of intensity, especially players who are over 30/near 30. I’ve never seen it at elite level, they are in like 4 competitions, no Injuries, no drop offs in energy? It’s just not really rationally possible imo The difference in the intensity and quickness of play amongst the top sides is incredible compared to ten or so years ago, tbh. I saw someone mention 20 years, but you do not need to go back that far. It is not just Liverpool, but they are a glaring example of it. Their entire style of play comes off as amphetamine-inspired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Maybe but I think it’s incredibly naive that people don’t think it’s rife in football when it’s rife in every other sport. Remember that Russian WC team? That’s the first time I thought I saw legit doping, and it ended up being doping. I feel the same way about these. The margins can’t be that high, they simply don’t tire. You can’t out diet age, it’s not possible. But surely if that was the case any elite club would be all over it and not just Liverpool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 More bloody jam than Hartleys this lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 I think it’s suspicious too but age doesn’t really take away stamina, just pace and general quickness? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Maybe but I think it’s incredibly naive that people don’t think it’s rife in football when it’s rife in every other sport. Remember that Russian WC team? That’s the first time I thought I saw legit doping, and it ended up being doping. I feel the same way about these. The margins can’t be that high, they simply don’t tire. You can’t out diet age, it’s not possible. It probably does occur in football, aye in isolated incidents. But there’s no way the whole of the Liverpool team are being doped like I don’t think it’s anywhere near as rife as is being spoken about. Your earlier point regarding injuries is a moot one when they had one of the worst injury lists last season. Do they only dope on alternate seasons? Why on Earth would the teams not doping allow it to happen without causing a fuss about it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: It really does, I get that there are medical advancements but Liverpool are absolutely relentless. Mane and Salah both went to the AFCON ffs and are bursting with energy. Salahs looked tired lately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Just now, Fantail Breeze said: It probably does occur in football, aye in isolated incidents. But there’s no way the whole of the Liverpool team are being doped like I don’t think it’s anywhere near as rife as is being spoken about. Your earlier point regarding injuries is a moot one when they had one of the worst injury lists last season. Do they only dope on alternate seasons? Why on Earth would the teams not doping allow it to happen without causing a fuss about it? You’ve got to cycle on and off the gear otherwise it doesn’t work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 LFC are fucking dope! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Just now, tgarve said: Salahs looked tired lately He’s been criticised non-stop since January for being shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Is it true that Liverpool's players drink some special isotonic drink created by a guy called Mark Warnecke? Lots of news articles from a few years ago suggesting so. He's got quite a suspicious CV like. Getting Dara Torres to swim faster at 41 (and after having a child) than 20 years previously? She was also asthmatic. I've never paid much attention to it, but this team just look juiced. Pretty much no serious injuries ever also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Liverpool on a high after this result! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 If people think that the richest sport in the world is clean are incredibly naive. There seems to have just been a collective decision that people didn’t care about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 Going to be like a pharmacy at half-time in the dressing rooms when Man City and Liverpool play in the final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: It’s a sport where absolutely millions are on the line, and every other sport has issues with it, but magically football doesn’t? I don’t see how that is feasible at all. Testing is a complete joke in football it would be very easy to skate it. Other teams? Well no one in cycling did when Lance was doing it. Canelo is a drugs cheat in boxing and no one is calling it out. You’d have to prove it/and have a clean club yourself But what about the injuries that both you and Sean have said Liverpool never get, which they got tons of last year? Surely it’d be very easy to prove - a simple drugs test. Unless you think every single club in world football is at it? Why wouldn’t we for example raise a concern about it? Or is Chris Wood on a special brew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, HTT II said: Liverpool on a high after this result! Yeah, they were huffing and puffing for a bit there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: You’ve got to cycle on and off the gear otherwise it doesn’t work. I don't think that's true, people cycle to try lessen the health and other impacts of long term continuous use, particularly of the more toxic steroids. But there's unlikely to be a big advantage from anabolic steroids in football, the advantage would come from stuff like EPO or an undetectable equivalent, of which there are allegedly many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: It probably does occur in football, aye in isolated incidents. But there’s no way the whole of the Liverpool team are being doped like I don’t think it’s anywhere near as rife as is being spoken about. Your earlier point regarding injuries is a moot one when they had one of the worst injury lists last season. Do they only dope on alternate seasons? Why on Earth would the teams not doping allow it to happen without causing a fuss about it? Freak injuries always happen like the one van Dijk had but I would be expecting more muscle injuries considering their play-style and the minutes some players are playing. That said, knowledge about muscle recovery has to be much better now than it was when Kieron Dyer got one every two months. Also don’t like the blaming without any evidence but must admit it’s a bit suspicious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 The chemistry between the LFC players is unreal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pata said: Freak injuries always happen like the one van Dijk had but I would be expecting more muscle injuries considering their play-style and the minutes some players are playing. That said, knowledge about muscle recovery has to be much better now than it was when Kieron Dyer got one every two months. Also don’t like the blaming without any evidence but must admit it’s a bit suspicious. A majority of their injuries were muscle injuries, IIRC. A quick Google search gave this list: Curtis Jones - Eye Naby Keita - Foot Roberto Firmino - Hamstring James Milner - Hamstring Harvey Elliott - Ankle Sadio Mané- Rib Andrew Robertson - Hamstring Jordan Henderson – adductor Ozan Kabak – muscle Maybe they didn’t have their drugs that day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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