manorpark Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, jack j said: Wonder what our support would be like at a big final thesedays. Closest I've ever been was the semi at Cardiff as a 14 year old and it seemed class that day but think that was cos we new we'd get humped Been to a number of our recent major finals, three FA Cup Finals (all lost) one League Cup Final (lost) and one European Fairs Cup Final (won), and our support was U N B E L I E V A B L E at all of them. It would be exactly the same now, I'm sure of it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 44 minutes ago, Heron said: Some of the other sympathise with the IRA... No issue with anyone understanding or sympathising with the initial reason it was founded tbh. Anything beyond that point or any condoning is when it's fucked up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 7 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: No issue with anyone understanding or sympathising with the initial reason it was founded tbh. Anything beyond that point or any condoning is when it's fucked up. Absolutely. Unless you one of those people who only see "our" history through the lens of white, entitled Englishness you'd understand the oppressive nature of The English Empire. For that is what it was/is. One thing I do like about Celtic's culture is their support for other oppressed people, like Palestinians for eg. Ex wife's dad's a massive Celtic fan tho and I once hoyed a Celtic LP he had on the old turntable. Fuck me, some of those tunes were a tad near the knuckle. Put me right off. The flagshagging orangemen in the Rangers camp just as much. I remember, as a teenager, watching Billy Connolly in a BBC play about the Orange marches. Getting shite hoyed on them. ( googled.... Just Another Saturday) Made an impression. Ps wanted Rangers to win btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 7 hours ago, manorpark said: Been to a number of our recent major finals, three FA Cup Finals (all lost) one League Cup Final (lost) and one European Fairs Cup Final (won), and our support was U N B E L I E V A B L E at all of them. It would be exactly the same now, I'm sure of it! Home, away or both? You old bugger ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 48 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Home, away or both? You old bugger ??? Yeah, keep warm MP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I wanted Rangers to win it for my mate and because doing so would have been an incredible story, them just getting to the final is incredible enough! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 55 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Home, away or both? You old bugger ??? Sadly, just the home game. That season it was very much all I could afford, or to be more precise - all my Mam & Dad could afford!! At that time, though I was going to as many league matches as I could, I couldn't afford a Season Ticket either. I got my first Season Ticket the following season, a 'standing one' in the West Stand Centre Paddock, and was instantly gently labelled as a . . . wait for it . . . "Glory Hunter" !!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy days, oh and "Mr 1964", I have got my black & white hot water bottle, thankyou . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 My dad's glaswegian so i'm a bit gutted tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Remember when every pundit thought we should have signed Ramsey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Typical sneering attitude in here towards Rangers/Football fans I see. Despite their being minimal bother seemingly. And we wonder why football fans are continually treat poorly here and absolutely disgracefully in Europe, particularly in Spain. Let's hope, when we get to Europe we're not on the receiving end of harsh treatment where it's presumed that it's entirely down to us... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: Typical sneering attitude in here towards Rangers/Football fans I see. Despite their being minimal bother seemingly. And we wonder why football fans are continually treat poorly here and absolutely disgracefully in Europe, particularly in Spain. Let's hope, when we get to Europe we're not on the receiving end of harsh treatment where it's presumed that it's entirely down to us... It's not like Rangers fans don't have previous... It's all the louts from Belfast probably causing all the issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 British, particularly English football fans abroad are stereotyped as hooligans for a reason like. It doesn't mean every case is the same or that it won't eventually be a baseless stereotype, but at the moment it's not unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Froggy said: It's not like Rangers fans don't have previous... It's all the louts from Belfast probably causing all the issues. It's not like fans of English clubs don't have previous but it's continually assumed football fans are out for bother. Minimal instances of Rangers fans causing trouble in Europe over the past two seasons from what I've seen. Heard some horror stories last night. Spailnish police confiscating permissable items such as earpods and battery packs. No water being sold within the stadium and fans handed plastic cups and told to go to the toilets. All alright though because football fans are scum aren't they... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 So almost every game that I've seen recently that's gone to extra time has remained scoreless and gone on to pens, with exceptions of course. It seems though you end up with a tired teams being very conservative and it's hardly a spectacle. Is it time to consider alternatives? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: British, particularly English football fans abroad are stereotyped as hooligans for a reason like. It doesn't mean every case is the same or that it won't eventually be a baseless stereotype, but at the moment it's not unfortunately. I think thats unfair. I don't think there's a particularly large hooligan element of any British club these days. It's seemingly more prominent on the continent. Loutish behaviour, yes. But that's different entirely. I'm assuming you prepare for and police loutish behaviour differently than organised violence. Theyre all scum and should be treat as such attitude from both the police here and in Europe is unacceptable these days. It's perpetuated by classist sneering cunts back here, who wouldn't dream of going to a football game never mind travelling to see their team abroad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Tiresias said: So almost every game that I've seen recently that's gone to extra time has remained scoreless and gone on to pens, with exceptions of course. It seems though you end up with a tired teams being very conservative and it's hardly a spectacle. Is it time to consider alternatives? Thought there was plenty of chances last night. If going for an alternative I'd prefer to try to make it more attractive to score rather than just going to penalties. Were golden goal or silver goal that bad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I think golden goal sounds good on paper but in reality it will just be teams being defensive petrified to concede a goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Real's extra time games were good fun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, Tiresias said: So almost every game that I've seen recently that's gone to extra time has remained scoreless and gone on to pens, with exceptions of course. It seems though you end up with a tired teams being very conservative and it's hardly a spectacle. Is it time to consider alternatives? 10 minutes each way? Not sure if it will make much difference but like you say it's a bit shit at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 True Real did make most of their extra time. I don't have the answer really, I am not keen on going straight to pens, maybe reduced time makes sense. Just seems to be a pattern at the moment, especially with Egypt doing it ACON a lot. Football should have a think about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Introduce the pre-pens challenge where each team gets five free kicks from 25 yards with just the keeper to beat. If one team is on top there then they win and it doesn’t go to pens. If all even, pens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Even if it was just golden goal in the final to add the jeopardy and we’d still have the penalties on hand to sort it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I'm probably in the minority here, but I love penalty shootouts. Whenever a final is 0-0 around the 80+ minutes I tend to hope it remains a stalemate for the remainder of the match + extra time. If it's been a good match with some goals, say 1-1 or 2-2 it's a different matter though, then I don't mind a late decider. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Or, and this is radical, you could just keep it the same as it’s absolutely fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, Tiresias said: True Real did make most of their extra time. I don't have the answer really, I am not keen on going straight to pens, maybe reduced time makes sense. Just seems to be a pattern at the moment, especially with Egypt doing it ACON a lot. Football should have a think about it. Egypt are just awful to watch generally though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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