Coffee_Johnny Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Just now, Hanshithispantz said: I'm assuming Shelvey is so far back because the pitch is the size of a matchbox. It’s creating problems though. Too many long adventurous outfits balls form defenders are going straight to oppo. Need to be twenty yards further forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 As shit as he is, he’s better than “Fletch” and “Macca” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1860 are treating this like a cup final Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Wilson not taking kindly to a sliding tackle in a friendly. Was a good tackle, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: It’s creating problems though. Too many long adventurous outfits balls form defenders are going straight to oppo. Need to be twenty yards further forward. Aye but it's not a fullsize pitch so it's probably a bit awkward. The 2-3 balls over the top to ASM would probably have worked at SJP Edited July 15, 2022 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Krafthy teaching Maxi how to dribble there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Nice run by Krath to win the corner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Floated set penis to back post making an appearance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Just now, reefatoon said: I don't think it is as intentional as it is. He goes that far back he is in between them. He then takes a pass from one of the cb's and then plays it to the other one. It's all so pointless. Needs to push a little further forward and not be so deep. When we play without him, nobody else sits that deep. all it does is leave a gaping hole in midlfield. I disagree, I know you say other players don't do that but that's because Shelvey is his own player, he drops that deeps so that he isn't as pressured on the ball and if the opportunity arises he has space and time to play those long balls over the top. I'm surprised you think Howe isn't 100% all over it when it comes to this kind of stuff. He won't be letting Shelvey just do whatever the fuck he wants, it's all worked on everyday in training and is dropping deep between CBs is something they will have talked about and been instructed to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Murphy not exactly covering himself with glory. Everything just a little off/overhit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Anderson is making endless runs Not coming deep to collect ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Aye but it's not a fullsize pitch so it's probably a bit awkward. The 2-3 balls over the top to ASM would probably have worked at SJP Unless the camera angle is just making it look tiny? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Just now, arnonel said: Anderson is making endless runs Not coming deep to collect ball Also not trying anything ballsy. Nice movement though and neat and tidy lay offs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Be disappointed if Anderson doesn't make it with us. Can see his quality and awareness. Not quite clicking today like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Not exactly inspiring stuff. Ah whey, it's pre season, who gives a shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 HT. Nice to be able to see this even if it's not much of a spectacle. We're snatchy, impatient and disorganised, which is par for the course really. Meanwhile we're up against a competent opponent who are up for it. It's got "good run out" all over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Shelvey severely limits how we play. Absolutely nothing going through the middle with him on the pitch and trying to play a 60yard ball every time. Willock and Anderson may as well not be on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Keep playing like that and it’s one way to remove the pressure from the box office server Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mazzy said: I disagree, I know you say other players don't do that but that's because Shelvey is his own player, he drops that deeps so that he isn't as pressured on the ball and if the opportunity arises he has space and time to play those long balls over the top. I'm surprised you think Howe isn't 100% all over it when it comes to this kind of stuff. He won't be letting Shelvey just do whatever the fuck he wants, it's all worked on everyday in training and is dropping deep between CBs is something they will have talked about and been instructed to do. That's the trouble. He wants to keep dropping in deeper, I bet Howe would prefer him to not be in the way of the CB's. I don't mean he should be right up the pitch, he just doesn't need to go so deep, he is like a third CB when we have the ball back there. His long balls are mostly wasted too, so when it comes back, he is too deep and it creates holes in the midfield. He can spray those types of balls around too, he just doesn't have to do it so deep. Watch the difference in the second half when we change the players. It will benefit us. Edited July 15, 2022 by reefatoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 I know it’s pre season but Burn looking “slow” Maxi is in the back pocket of their RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Just now, HawK said: Shelvey severely limits how we play. Absolutely nothing going through the middle with him on the pitch and trying to play a 60yard ball every time. Willock and Anderson may as well not be on the pitch. he's incredibly frustrating, like. tried about 4 or 5 worldy balls there and not one of them came off. he's got good technique, but this "range of passing" is a total myth, always has been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 You can tell these lads start their season in anger next week whilst we've had a kick about versus Gateshead, like. Hopefully a useful exercise in sharpening up and fitness if nowt else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 We have no midfield tbf to Jonjo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Just now, Pilko said: You can tell these lads start their season in anger next week whilst we've had a kick about versus Gateshead, like. Hopefully a useful exercise in sharpening up and fitness if nowt else. Exactly. That's what these games are for, get that match sharpness back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 minute ago, HawK said: Shelvey severely limits how we play. Absolutely nothing going through the middle with him on the pitch and trying to play a 60yard ball every time. Willock and Anderson may as well not be on the pitch. It does feel a little one dimensional and easy to defend against. I know it sounds simplistic but I honestly think that (when we’re building from the back) if he just edged up a little— left, right or central— as an option to receive the ball it would really help; not least as it may pull the opposite out of position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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