KaKa Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Froggy said: I like Martial and think he's a capable player, but we definitely overpaid at the time and I don't think he's anywhere close to world class, whereas you think Isak is a world beater and well worth £60m+ after a mere 900 minutes. That's the difference. No need to mock the per 90 stats. You brought them up. And in goal contributions per game your boy is worse than Martial. Worth noting that I said Isak was a good signing, and I think he's a good player. Doesn't change that £60m was expensive. Isak has been considered one of the most talented young strikers in the game for a while now. How much did you think we should have paid for him? Considering the likes of yourselves are blowing £90 million for Antony and Chelsea are blowing the same on Mudryk, I think we did very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Some of you get wound up so easily, it's no wonder Froggy loves it here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 There were some Newcastle fans saying the fee was expensive so it's not a shock if fans of other clubs had that thought As it happens they were wrong cos it's looking like a bargain so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 (edited) Manure have got Wout Weghorst regularly playing upfront for them. Wout fucking Weghorst Isak is playing a different game. Edited April 9, 2023 by Dokko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nobody said: I've seen him since he was 16 years old, so it's not based on 900 minutes Are you a talent scout or a coach? Again, I said he was a good signing. It doesn't mean that £60m wasn't expensive. I wasn't the only one thinking that as well. I couldn't care less if Antony starts banging in 20 a season. What we paid for him was ludicrous and I think what you paid for Isak was a huge fee as well. The whole thing started because we were criticised for spending £60m on Casemiro and I found it hypocritical when you were defending spending £60m on a 1 in 3 La Liga striker, but at the end of the day if it's what the team needs then who cares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dokko said: Manure have got Wout Weghorst regularly playing upfront for them. Wout fucking Weghorst Isak is playing a different game. Even Weghorst was smashing them in when he was in Holland and Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Casemiro's fee was only deemed excessive because of his age. Isak is almost a decade younger! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Just now, KaKa said: Casemiro's fee was only deemed excessive because of his age. Isak is almost a decade younger! On the flip side Casemiro is one of the most decorated players of all time and has been undeniably world class for a long, long time. Isak is a striker with a 1 in 3 record. Both fees were too high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Just now, Froggy said: On the flip side Casemiro is one of the most decorated players of all time and has been undeniably world class for a long, long time. Isak is a striker with a 1 in 3 record. Both fees were too high. Do you actually enjoy this though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Froggy said: On the flip side Casemiro is one of the most decorated players of all time and has been undeniably world class for a long, long time. Isak is a striker with a 1 in 3 record. Both fees were too high. You're so funny man A 1 in 3 striker is your go to line it seems. Thank God we didn't judge him just based on his '1 in 3' and instead looked deeper than that. Going to be fun watching him continue to tear things up in the Prem as the team around him improves further. And we'll see who you lot blow another fortune on this summer in comparison! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bondedcrown Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Just now, KaKa said: You're so funny man A 1 in 3 striker is your go to line it seems. Thank God we didn't judge him just based on his '1 in 3' and instead looked deeper than that. Going to be fun watching him continue to tear things up in the Prem as the team around him improves further. And we'll see who you lot blow another fortune on this summer in comparison! How much was Maguire? Asking for a friend! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hovagod said: Do you actually enjoy this though? Enjoy what? Why are you acting like I'm trying to troll for satisfaction. The facts are: I posted 6-7 months saying the fee was extremely high and that I found it hypocritical that people criticised the Casemiro fee. I also said I thought Isak was a good signing. Fast forward to now I've had my posts quoted and laughed it, to which I've responded. I never brought Man United players into it. Nobody is the one who mentioned Martial and scoffed at his goal record compared to Isak's, which is when I pointed out that Martial actually has better goal contribution stats per 90 than Isak has. That part might be the one people find difficult. If you're going to pull up my posts from 6-7 months ago to try and mock me, don't get your backs up when I retaliate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Waiting for you to confirm what a sensible fee for Isak would have been in your opinion, since £60 million was 'extremely high'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I thought he had a really good scoring record for someone so young playing in such a strong league. £60m is a lot to us, but no one would’ve blinked if an ESL club spent that much on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, Froggy said: On the flip side Casemiro is one of the most decorated players of all time and has been undeniably world class for a long, long time. Isak is a striker with a 1 in 3 record. Both fees were too high. I think both fees have been justified though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, Froggy said: Are you a talent scout or a coach? I No, but he broke through for my team in Sweden, where I'm a season ticket holder, when he was 16. Watched him dominate the local away derby on his 17th birthday, scoring a brace. I've since watched him at often as possible for Dortmund, Willem II and Sociedad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, Froggy said: On the flip side Casemiro is one of the most decorated players of all time and has been undeniably world class for a long, long time. Isak is a striker with a 1 in 3 record. Both fees were too high. Both are fantastic. Neither fee is excessive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 If he carrys on as he's going, I couldn't give a fuck what we paid. Also couldn't give a shite what other teams spunk their money on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Been over this before. Isak's goals to minutes ratio in La Liga was 1 in 2. He was a sub a lot in his first season which is understandable as he was 19 at the time. For 2 seasons, he was a 1 in 120 mins striker but had a final poor season. We marginally overpaid at the time but there were very evident signs past a single season that he had a lot of quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bondedcrown said: How much was Maguire? Asking for a friend! You're reinforcing my point. He was way too fucking much. You can look at my post history if you want. £60m is what was touted for Maguire and I thought that was already an insane and we ended up paying £80m. He ended up making us better at the back as well for at least a couple of years, but nothing is ever making that fee acceptable. 8 minutes ago, KaKa said: A 1 in 3 striker is your go to line it seems. Because he was a 1 in 3 striker. It's no deeper than that. 1 minute ago, Geordie Ahmed said: I think both fees have been justified though In all seriousness, I think there needs to be more football from both of them before those fees can be justified. Casemiro hasn't justified it yet for me. He's been suspended far too often. His importance to us isn't up for debate but when you spend £60m on a star player you expect him to be available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Fair point about his suspensions, missed 8 gamed, right? I suppose the way to look at it are fans happy you spent £60m on him? I think the answer is yes, same for Isak and us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Man United wish they had someone as good as Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Just now, STM said: Man United wish they had someone as good as Isak. Would take him in a heartbeat, even though he is statistically inferior to Martial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 If that 60m results in Champions League qualification, then it's probably worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Froggy said: Would take him in a heartbeat, even though he is statistically inferior to Martial. You know as well as I do that Isak is a much better player than Martial. In another world, where Martial was injury free and in top form, he'd have been a great striker in this league though. Too little too late from him. Man United will sign someone in the summer. They will be in business then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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