Alexander Isak - International C*nt

[ExiledGeordie]

Just now, KaKa said:

 

It's just so pointless getting worked up about all of this with Howe in charge. Doesn't seemed phased about any of it at all, and is prepared for whatever circumstance arises.

 

Interesting that he said there were no contract talks going on, but that there may be potentially at a later date.

 

I can't help but wonder if any contract talks have not been pushed forward past surface discussions, as we've been waiting for the CEO and DOF hires to be confirmed first, so they could play some part in advising on that too.

 

May be a source of the frustration from Isak's end. especially after we already botched the situation last year.

Yeah Howe is just colossal with his communication and calmness even in the most tricky situations. Club needs to get its arse in gear behind the scenes to support him.

[Sibierski]

33 minutes ago, Pearljam10 said:

If you want to be number 1, you don't sell your best players to a rival. When was the last time a top six club did that?

Spurs and Arsenal back in the late 00s / early 10s, and it kept them firmly at arms length from others. 

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, Rich said:

If our ambition is to push on, we have to sell and reinvest as wisely as we’ve done to date under PIF. I’d have a different view if the player clearly didn’t want off. Let’s get the absolute maximum we can for him, replace him, bring in more high-level signings and ideally raise the ceiling on salaries to try and prevent this from happening next summer with another player we love.

The issue is we haven’t got that long to reinvest, especially with how slow we work. Ideally that new CEO and sporting director come in and we can speed things up.

[Keggy_Keagal]

Eddie is just absolutely class and we're very lucky to have him. It's a sad state of affairs though when it's looking like we're essentially a bigger Bournemouth with Eddie having to do everything shy of making the lunches and driving the team coach. 

[Ronson333]

Just read Eddies full comments, feel a lot more confident now.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14942603/Eddie-Howe-breaks-silence-Alexander-Isaks-future-Liverpool-target-told-hierarchy-wants-leave-club-summer.html

[Kid Icarus]

1 minute ago, Sibierski said:

Spurs and Arsenal back in the late 00s / early 10s, and it kept them firmly at arms length from others. 

Tbf to Spurs, a crucial part of their growth is that Berbatov aside they always sold abroad and those sales arguably catapulted them into the big 6.

[RobsonsWonderland]

1 minute ago, Keggy_Keagal said:

Eddie is just absolutely class and we're very lucky to have him. It's a sad state of affairs though when it's looking like we're essentially a bigger Bournemouth with Eddie having to do everything shy of making the lunches and driving the team coach. 

Which is crazy as we seem to announce a new employee joining the club to do a job I didn't know we needed... All Except the main jobs which seem to be ignored.

 

There must be a plan in the background... Mustn't there ?

[ExiledGeordie]

5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

The issue is we haven’t got that long to reinvest, especially with how slow we work. Ideally that new CEO and sporting director come in and we can speed things up.

Yes those two positions are absolutely crucial now to make us more proactive and dynamic. Why Eales hasn’t been replaced is beyond me.

[Civetty]

20 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:

While I wholeheartedly agree with this,  we are screwed from being number 1 in this PSR world. When other clubs can offer double the wages we’re always going to be at risk of losing top players to other teams and players having their heads turned.

 

 

 

 

I feel like "promising" him a raise that we later rejected, then saying we'd go ambitious when we didn't doesn't help. Like I know a football club is different with team mates and fans all. But how much don't you fucking hate that sort of talk from your employer? Its absolutely infuriating. Even though "PSR" isn't really something a normal employer have to deal with.

 

Isak, from the looks of it, surely gained a lot of attention we didn't previously have in this club. So couldn't we at least offer him sort of % off kit sales with his name? Something to make him feel more sane.

 

I hate to say it, but it feels like we've acted like any employer, asking him to overperform during mid-season, and then shafting him during the off seasons when the goals been achieved.

 

Either way, I'm confident we'll get a lot of money, its a really poor timing to be able to spend it though, I hope we make the most of it regardless.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 26, 2025 by Civetty

[Sandrotastico]

9 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

It's just so pointless getting worked up about all of this with Howe in charge. Doesn't seemed phased about any of it at all, and is prepared for whatever circumstance arises.

 

Interesting that he said there were no contract talks going on, but that there may be potentially at a later date.

 

I can't help but wonder if any contract talks have not been pushed forward past surface discussions, as we've been waiting for the CEO and DOF hires to be confirmed first, so they could play some part in advising on that too.

 

May be a source of the frustration from Isak's end, especially after we already botched the situation last year.

 

 

 

Sounds like we're turning this to play the game on our terms. You're on a great contract (which you agreed to). Yes you want more but we will get to that, if you're fully invested. No man is bigger than the club. It's been siad but this is very like the Cole - Keegan stance. If everyone agrees, we sell but it's for what we want - Pay the money we want or fuck off.

[ExiledGeordie]

2 minutes ago, Civetty said:

 

I feel like "promising" him a raise that we letter rejected, then saying we'd go ambitious when we didn't doesn't help. Like I know a football club is different with team mates and fans all. But how much don't you fucking hate that sort of talk from your employer? Its absolutely infuriating. Even though "PSR" isn't really something a normal employer have to deal with.

 

Isak, from the looks of it, surely gained a lot of attention we didn't previously have in this club. So couldn't we at least offer him sort of % off kit sales with his name? Something to make him feel more sane.

 

I hate to say it, but it feels like we've acted like any employer, asking him to overperform during mid-season, and then shafting him during the off seasons when the goals been achieved.

 

Either way, I'm confident we'll get a lot of money, its a really poor timing to be able to spend it though, I hope we make the most of it regardless.

 

 

Yes a contract promise being taken away and lack of summer signings has definitely helped fuel Isak’s angst.

[KaKa]

4 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:

Yes those two positions are absolutely crucial now to make us more proactive and dynamic. Why Eales hasn’t been replaced is beyond me.

 

When you actually see the guy that is apparently going to be the new CEO, I imagine this is not an easy guy to bring to the club, and it likely took a lot of work in the background.

 

They've gone for someone that is very very experienced at the highest level, and they do seem to look for the best hires when bringing people into the club.

 

The only time they went away from that was Mitchell which was Eales bringing in someone he was close with as they had worked together previously, and that didn't go too great.

[Heron]

Ultimately, it's FFP and PSR that is stopping us and having to ensure we don't give players too high salaries so that we can continue to invest in the squad.

 

I suspect Isak wants us to invest in a playing squad that is capable of challenging for league titles and furthermore, in the not too distant future, on all fronts. We all want that from a footballing perspective. I'm sure Isak doesn't want anything other than that, and I'm sure he doesn't want to leave Newcastle, but instead wants to ensure he progresses both financially and through his own performance.

 

That's my issue here. Our fans are in a frenzy from a load of tosspots trying to make their own coin out of the situation.

 

I suspect that if we were to give Isak anywhere near the contractual demands being touted, it leaves less financial leg room to go out and invest in the squad, and we are likely trying to balance out what is better for the club as a result. One of the best (current) strikers in the world or perhaps 3 or 4 players that would bolster the overall squad.

 

Can we run the risk of getting another year out of Isak whilst adding one or two, etc.?

 

With FFP/PSR we cannot have our cake and eat it, like others have done before us.

 

If you're Isak then you want you're situation resolving, the longer it drags on the more you push and so he has done, but has he really said or done all that bad?

 

Newcastle won't sell him for anything other than the right price. His price will reduce, as will his options if he doesn't perform, and as will his subsequent salary. We hold the cards here not Isak.

 

Liverpool will need to sell to buy him, and by the time they do so that leaves us less time to recruit, which suggests to me it won't be them. No one else in the league can afford him aside from perennial, financial squirmers Chelsea, but honestly, I'm not sure why he'd want to go there, that leaves say Barcelona (who cannot afford him), Madrid - who likely don't want him at present, PSG (which is probably a viable) option or Saudi and at neither of the latter he'd really be finding his top levels on a regular basis.

 

PSG is the most likely option to my mind.

 

All of the frenzy is about Isak saying he wants to keep his options open, of course he does, we need to match his ambition, but the reality is what can we match ambition with if our hands are financially tied. All other clubs know we're willing to spend so adding £10/£15m to any given transfer and hence it dragging out all summer.

 

Our transfer business has been nigh on spot on since the takeover and Howe's employment, so whatever comes of this situation, I'll reserve faith. It's not what we want (our star striker leaving) but if he does there'll be a plan in place for sure.

 

 

Edited July 26, 2025 by Heron

[ExiledGeordie]

6 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

When you actually see the guy that is apparently going to be the new CEO, I imagine this is not an easy guy to bring to the club, and it likely took a lot of work in the background.

 

They've gone for someone that is very very experienced at the highest level, and they do seem to look for the best hires when bringing people into the club.

 

The only time they went away from that was Mitchell which was Eales bringing in someone he was close with as they had worked together previously, and that didn't go too great.

Who is the new CEO?

[JT24]

Just now, ExiledGeordie said:

Who is the new CEO?

David Hopkinson, allegedly. 

[KaKa]

2 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:

Who is the new CEO?

 

@JT24 had some good posts on him in the staff thread.

 

 

 

[ExiledGeordie]

1 minute ago, KaKa said:

 

@JT24 had some good posts on him in the staff thread.

 

 

 

Great thanks, I haven’t been that convinced by Eales even before he very sadly became ill 

[andycap]

13 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

When you actually see the guy that is apparently going to be the new CEO, I imagine this is not an easy guy to bring to the club, and it likely took a lot of work in the background.

 

They've gone for someone that is very very experienced at the highest level, and they do seem to look for the best hires when bringing people into the club.

 

The only time they went away from that was Mitchell which was Eales bringing in someone he was close with as they had worked together previously, and that didn't go too great.

Hopkinson eh. 😂 

 

 

Edited July 26, 2025 by andycap

[duo]

33 minutes ago, Heron said:

He'll still be here come September.

I have a feeling he wil be as well - I think Liverpool need to sell Nunez first and so long as PIF don't bail them out I can't see anyone buying Nunez.

[Yorkie]

Had been anxious to hear from the manager and feel better for doing so. Not especially confident that Isak will stay based on his comments, but less bothered I guess. As long as Howe is on board, with competent executive appointments hopefully imminent, you feel like we can make the best of the situation.

[Paully]

Liverpool have 11 months to sell IF they need to do so to buy him - he’s 100% away for me and it’s left a big sour taste about how he’s gone about it.

 

 

Edited July 26, 2025 by Paully

[ExiledGeordie]

6 minutes ago, Paully said:

Liverpool have 11 months to sell IF they need to do so to buy him - he’s 100% away for me and it’s lift a big sour taste for me about how he’s gone about it.

Yes I think he’s off to Liverpool too mate, official bid will be imminent. Agreed he could have handled it far better than he has…..agent will massively be pushing things.

 

 

Edited July 26, 2025 by ExiledGeordie

[craigmadge]

If you’re Liverpool is Isak really the answer. Yes he’s an amazing player but it’s an awful lot of money. 
 

would it not be better off getting rodrygo or a cheaper winger. 
 

they are going to need to replace salah next year

[ExiledGeordie]

Key for me is if Pool want him, we stand steadfast on our valuation of him.

[ExiledGeordie]

Just now, craigmadge said:

If you’re Liverpool is Isak really the answer. Yes he’s an amazing player but it’s an awful lot of money. 
 

would it not be better off getting rodrygo or a cheaper winger. 
 

they are going to need to replace salah next year

They have Ekitike who could potentially a lot wide right and they don’t have a natural centre forward. Also if a player like Isak becomes available then it’s no surprise they’d want him. I still think there as durability issue with him but there’s no doubting his class.