Nucasol Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 (edited) 7 minutes ago, madras said: But Chelsea to Clearlake is like NUFC to PIF, a small part of its overall investments It sounds like you are saying they are prioritising Chelsea. Nope, it isn’t even close to comparable. Their initial £4.25bn investment in Chelsea is about 7% of Clearlake’s total pool. They are actively managing it - hence Boehly and Egbahli’s almost daily involvement. PIF’s initial investment in NUFC was £300m of £688bn. Which is 0.04% of their total assets. So if Chelsea go tits up, it’s a material part of Clearlake’s overall portfolio and therefore more important to PIF who have a bigger financial commitment than in us. If NUFC go tits up, it’s not even a rounding error. The only noise it will make is media and reputational, not financial. Edited July 27, 2025 by Nucasol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 5 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Nope, it isn’t even close to comparable. Their initial £4.25bn investment in Chelsea is about 7% of Clearlake’s total pool. They are actively managing it - hence Boehly and Egbahli’s almost daily involvement. PIF’s initial investment in NUFC was £300m of £688bn. Which is 0.04% of their total assets. So if Chelsea go tits up, it’s a material part of Clearlake’s overall portfolio and therefore more important to PIF who have a bigger financial commitment than in us. If NUFC go tits up, it’s not even a rounding error. The only noise it will make is media and reputational, not financial. Financially you're right but optically we're worth a lot more to them than 0.04% and any reputational damage is a strong reflection on their business dealings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 Just now, Mattoon said: Financially you're right but optically we're worth a lot more to them than 0.04% and any reputational damage is a strong reflection on their business dealings. I agree but you’ve seen the absence of interest the media have in any unfairness to NUFC. They’ll hardly be championing our cause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallowghoul Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 25 minutes ago, et tu brute said: You think a fee has been agreed. Sorry I think thats a load of shit there has to be a ballpark made clear that buyer is happy with. No way we are going after sesko & wissa without that base knowledge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 7 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Nope, it isn’t even close to comparable. Their initial £4.25bn investment in Chelsea is about 7% of Clearlake’s total pool. They are actively managing it - hence Boehly and Egbahli’s almost daily involvement. PIF’s initial investment in NUFC was £300m of £688bn. Which is 0.04% of their total assets. And how much of that is PIF's ? And which gives Saudi more publicity their ownership of NUFC or Clearlakes investment in Chelsea as this is about more than just finanace ? Do you think PIF are prioritising Chelsea over NUFC ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 1 minute ago, gallowghoul said: there has to be a ballpark made clear that buyer is happy with. No way we are going after sesko & wissa without that base knowledge It has been made clear he's not for sale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 1 minute ago, madras said: And how much of that is PIF's ? And which gives Saudi more publicity their ownership of NUFC or Clearlakes investment in Chelsea as this is about more than just finanace ? Do you think PIF are prioritising Chelsea over NUFC ? I don’t think they’re particularly prioritising either - the priority is the WC 2034 and building their non-entity of a league and the shiny new vanity project stadiums. However, what I will say is that they have continually found ways to bail Chelsea out of the shit for their profligate spending. The Maxi deal when compared to the dross they have bought for inflated prices from Chelsea is still something that rankles. Felix the latest. I think the next 6 months are pretty critical for a lot of fans’ opinions of them. No stadium or training ground and I’d say they are happy to accept us as best of the rest, selling to those above and turning a paper breakeven. Not really YAR’s bold claims. Hoping I’m wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 5 minutes ago, et tu brute said: It has been made clear he's not for sale Is Gallowghoul a dipper spunk trumpet? Sounds like one and needs to fuck off back to the cesspit they call RAWK!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 52 minutes ago, Displayname said: Have a feeling it's more about us finding a replacement first. No way we are going to let Isak go before we have. Which I thought, because nothing else made sense, must be the reason for the Ekitike bid. If that was the case, and add to it the supposed refusal from Isak to go to Saudi (which must have predated the media coverage of it), perhaps the recent bombshell that he wants away wasn’t as much a surprise to the club as it was to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 Liverpool seems to have tried to help us by asking for Isak first and not bidding on Ettike. We probably should have not gone against them as this is what happens when you mess we ith truly great legacy teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 Unfortunately everything at the moment points towards them selling him to Liverpool. My only barrier to it at the moment is thinking surely they wouldn't be that stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 Just now, Slim said: Liverpool seems to have tried to help us by asking for Isak first and not bidding on Ettike. We probably should have not gone against them as this is what happens when you mess we ith truly great legacy teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallowghoul Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 13 minutes ago, et tu brute said: It has been made clear he's not for sale With respect, that’s an incredibly naive reading of events Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 (edited) 1 minute ago, gallowghoul said: With respect, that’s an incredibly naive reading of events WIth respect you're talking about load of shit, but carry on with your scouse fantasy land Edited July 27, 2025 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 Imagine selling him before getting a replacement. Are we capable of that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 7 minutes ago, Slim said: Liverpool seems to have tried to help us by asking for Isak first and not bidding on Ettike. We probably should have not gone against them as this is what happens when you mess we ith truly great legacy teams. They possibly received a flat no from us re Isak so went for t’other. Then Isak has, again possibly, chucked the dummy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 6 minutes ago, gallowghoul said: With respect, that’s an incredibly naive reading of events I wonder why the Isak thread is the only one you post in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 21 minutes ago, gallowghoul said: there has to be a ballpark made clear that buyer is happy with. No way we are going after sesko & wissa without that base knowledge In the politest way possible. Please fuck off back to RAWK. We have quality posters from other clubs on here. We even have a superb resident Liverpool fan who adds something to the place. WTF are you even adding other than trying to antagonise the fans when you know we’re all fucked off as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallowghoul Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 1 minute ago, Lush Vlad said: In the politest way possible. Please fuck off back to RAWK. We have quality posters from other clubs on here. We even have a superb resident Liverpool fan who adds something to the place. WTF are you even adding other than trying to antagonise the fans when you know we’re all fucked off as it is. no antagony other than yours. firmly believe Howe is at the point he believes he is better re investing in the squad at this stage & there is no way they are bidding on replacements without knowing there is a bid imminent and the ball park feee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 1 hour ago, et tu brute said: They will the Saudis won't be fucked about, it will be £150 plus or he's going nowhere We've been saying this kind of stuff about them for the last two years with regards to them taking on the PL rules etc and they haven't done shit. No idea where your confidence comes from that they will stand firm on a £150m minimum price. They also gave ASM away. All the indications so far point to them being all talk, no action and meek as fuck when it comes to dealing with this particular issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 31 minutes ago, et tu brute said: It has been made clear he's not for sale Not according to Liverpool fans... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 1 minute ago, Wandy said: We've been saying this kind of stuff about them for the last two years with regards to them taking on the PL rules etc and they haven't done shit. No idea where your confidence comes from that they will stand firm on a £150m minimum price. They also gave ASM away. All the indications so far point to them being all talk, no action and meek as fuck when it comes to dealing with this particular issue. We will see won't we Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 2 minutes ago, gallowghoul said: no antagony other than yours. firmly believe Howe is at the point he believes he is better re investing in the squad at this stage & there is no way they are bidding on replacements without knowing there is a bid imminent and the ball park feee Firmly believe nobody on here really gives a fuck what a Liverpool fan thinks. Who has signed up purely to repeat himself in the Isak thread and half masquerade as an NUFC fan in the process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 10 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: In the politest way possible. Please fuck off back to RAWK. We have quality posters from other clubs on here. We even have a superb resident Liverpool fan who adds something to the place. WTF are you even adding other than trying to antagonise the fans when you know we’re all fucked off as it is. Stop engaging with him. It’s all set up for him gloating when Isak goes and posting it back to rawk. Fuck him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted July 27, 2025 Share Posted July 27, 2025 2 minutes ago, Wandy said: We've been saying this kind of stuff about them for the last two years with regards to them taking on the PL rules etc and they haven't done shit. No idea where your confidence comes from that they will stand firm on a £150m minimum price. They also gave ASM away. All the indications so far point to them being all talk, no action and meek as fuck when it comes to dealing with this particular issue. They gave ASM away. Based soley on what he's done since leaving we got a decent fee... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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