Alexander Isak - International C*nt

[Optimistic Nut]

2 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

The Fuck PSR chant was sung by both sets of fans.

 

Didn't hear that. Brilliant.

[PauloGeordio]

Just now, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Didn't hear that. Brilliant.

 

[Emotic]

It now baffles me why Liverpool took Ekitike from under our noses. We must've somehow known at that point that Isak was acting up. Signing his potential replacement was the first step down a quite tragic sequence of events. And Manure swooping in for Sesko then prolonged it. 

[Vinny Green Balls]

At this point, Villa, Newcastle, and Forest should consider themselves allies off the pitch.

[TRon]

1 hour ago, Andy said:

 

It absolutely is cutting off our nose if he refuses to play, half arses it, or spends his days stinking up the dressing room; at worst it's a complete wasted squad space, at best it's a player going through the motions who we can't trust and who his teammates can't trust. We'd potentially be writing off the league season and a champions league campaign purely to show him who's boss. 

 

We need players at the club who want to play for us first and foremost, there's absolutely no point having any player here if they don't want to be, it doesn't matter how good they are. I seriously doubt Eddie wants him here at this stage, regardless of what he says in his press conferences. 

 

 

I don't think he would half arse it personally. What he's doing is a calculated gamble to get a move to a club where he will double his salary, and he gets the chance to win multiple trophies including the CL. If the window closes without him getting his move, he'll be just as calculated and play to win like always. It does him no good to rot in the reserves in a world cup year, or not be playing PL football. 

 

I think we'd LIKE to have replaced him with someone who could at least have potential to be a top striker, but Pedro, Ekitike and Sesko went elsewhere. You can keep going down the list, but at some point you are gambling your season on hoping 5th or 6th choice might come off. 

[ExiledGeordie]

2 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

I don't think he would half arse it personally. What he's doing is a calculated gamble to get a move to a club where he will double his salary, and he gets the chance to win multiple trophies including the CL. If the window closes without him getting his move, he'll be just as calculated and play to win like always. It does him no good to rot in the reserves in a world cup year, or not be playing PL football. 

 

I think we'd LIKE to have replaced him with someone who could at least have potential to be a top striker, but Pedro, Ekitike and Sesko went elsewhere. You can keep going down the list, but at some point you are gambling your season on hoping 5th or 6th choice might come off. 

Well summed up 👍

[Wilson]

3 minutes ago, Emotic said:

It now baffles me why Liverpool took Ekitike from under our noses. We must've somehow known at that point that Isak was acting up. Signing his potential replacement was the first step down a quite tragic sequence of events. And Manure swooping in for Sesko then prolonged it. 

 

They want both.  That's it. 

[KingArthur]

3 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

I don't think he would half arse it personally. What he's doing is a calculated gamble to get a move to a club where he will double his salary, and he gets the chance to win multiple trophies including the CL. If the window closes without him getting his move, he'll be just as calculated and play to win like always. It does him no good to rot in the reserves in a world cup year, or not be playing PL football. 

 

I think we'd LIKE to have replaced him with someone who could at least have potential to be a top striker, but Pedro, Ekitike and Sesko went elsewhere. You can keep going down the list, but at some point you are gambling your season on hoping 5th or 6th choice might come off. 

If he doesn't get the move, he will come back and play. Howe knows if he has gone beyond salvation. Some PR stuff and new contract and few goals and everyone is happy. No chance he stays and doesn't do his job.

[The Bonk]

1 hour ago, lovejoy said:

agreed on the half arsed bit. The fact people think it’s a conspiracy that he downed tools post cup final (and pre Halloween ish) is beyond me.

 

 

Didn’t Howe mention some players weren’t fully invested during our dodgy start last year? Has to have been him after Mitchell balked at a new contract for him. 
 

I believe it based on his current behaviour.

[TRon]

Just now, Wilson said:

 

They want both.  That's it. 

 

 

Not sure they do tbh. They wanted Isak because he's a sure thing, but at the same time, if they think Ekitike is going to be the real deal, they would probably only want Isak at a heavily discounted price. Hence the piss take £110m offer. 

[Andy]

 

4 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

I don't think he would half arse it personally. What he's doing is a calculated gamble to get a move to a club where he will double his salary, and he gets the chance to win multiple trophies including the CL. If the window closes without him getting his move, he'll be just as calculated and play to win like always. It does him no good to rot in the reserves in a world cup year, or not be playing PL football. 

 

I think we'd LIKE to have replaced him with someone who could at least have potential to be a top striker, but Pedro, Ekitike and Sesko went elsewhere. You can keep going down the list, but at some point you are gambling your season on hoping 5th or 6th choice might come off. 

 

Looked to me like he was half arsing it at the end of last season, don't see why he wouldn't now. 

 

Seemed to me from Gordon's comments today that there's no desire from the group to have him come back into the squad, regardless of how Isak chooses to play it. For all people are saying it sends the wrong message to players "giving him what he wants", it sends a much worse message allowing him to strike then just throwing him straight back into the starting 11 if he doesn't get a move, only for him to do it all again in January or next summer. 

[Vinny Green Balls]

2 minutes ago, The Bonk said:

Didn’t Howe mention some players weren’t fully invested during our dodgy start last year? Has to have been him after Mitchell balked at a new contract for him. 
 

I believe it based on his current behaviour.

he was also dog shit for the first games.

[Kid Icarus]

You'll never get closer to being a champion for British imperialism than you will be after a few minutes of witnessing the plastic armada of international e-scousers on Twitter. 

[Emotic]

Just now, Wilson said:

 

They want both.  That's it. 

That makes all that business about “let us sign Isak or else we will sign Ekitike” guff all the more despicable. If they had wanted Isak so badly on the outset, just quietly stump up the cash that you were planning to splurge on Ekitike to meet our valuation. Then we could have signed Ekitike. How could they overpay for Florian Wirtz and cheap out on Isak?

 

There will be an investigative piece on this, in time to come. I only hope its done with some impartiality.

[ExiledGeordie]

1 minute ago, Andy said:

 

 

Looked to me like he was half arsing it at the end of last season, don't see why he wouldn't now. 

 

Seemed to me from Gordon's comments today that there's no desire from the group to have him come back into the squad, regardless of how Isak chooses to play it. For all people are saying it sends the wrong message to players "giving him what he wants", it sends a much worse message allowing him to strike then just throwing him straight back into the starting 11 if he doesn't get a move, only for him to do it all again in January or next summer. 

What did Gordon say?

[Vinny Green Balls]

Just now, Andy said:

 

 

Looked to me like he was half arsing it at the end of last season, don't see why he wouldn't now. 

 

Seemed to me from Gordon's comments today that there's no desire from the group to have him come back into the squad, regardless of how Isak chooses to play it. For all people are saying it sends the wrong message to players "giving him what he wants", it sends a much worse message allowing him to strike then just throwing him straight back into the starting 11 if he doesn't get a move, only for him to do it all again in January or next summer. 

That's straw manning a bit. You don't just throw him back in the starting line up. Get Wissa in and punish Isak for a bit before he is reintegrated. He has to make an effort to earn back his place in the team.

[The Bonk]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

You'll never get closer to being a champion for British imperialism than you will be after a few minutes of witnessing the plastic armada of international e-scousers on Twitter. 

Reddit equally or if not worse.

[Keegans Export]

3 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

If he doesn't get the move, he will come back and play. Howe knows if he has gone beyond salvation. Some PR stuff and new contract and few goals and everyone is happy. No chance he stays and doesn't do his job.

It's why the Wissa move is so important. 

 

If we have a viable, proven, PL-quality striker in the squad, we don't have to play Isak. If he isn’t applying himself in training then he can come off the bench if Wissa needs a rest and nothing more.

[Vinny Green Balls]

Of course I only want Wissa to go on Brentford's terms, mind you.

[PauloGeordio]

1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

That's straw manning a bit. You don't just throw him back in the starting line up. Get Wissa in and punish Isak for a bit before he is reintegrated. He has to make an effort to earn back his place in the team.

Think that’s what Eddie meant when he said Isak dictates. Ie earn your place, do all the grovelling shit and then we make room for you.

[TRon]

3 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

 

Looked to me like he was half arsing it at the end of last season, don't see why he wouldn't now. 

 

Seemed to me from Gordon's comments today that there's no desire from the group to have him come back into the squad, regardless of how Isak chooses to play it. For all people are saying it sends the wrong message to players "giving him what he wants", it sends a much worse message allowing him to strike then just throwing him straight back into the starting 11 if he doesn't get a move, only for him to do it all again in January or next summer. 

 

 

Maybe he was, or maybe he was actually carrrying an injury and not really as effective at the end of the season because of that. Without something more concrete I'd not personally believe that. I doubt Eddie would pick him if he thought he was. 

[Andy]

2 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:

What did Gordon say?

 

Along the lines of the rest of the group are tight-knit and the togetherness is never going to go "regardless of individuals"

[deejeck]

6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

the plastic armada of international e-scousers on Twitter. 

[SUPERTOON]

Think we’ll get closure either way this coming week.

[Andy]

5 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

Maybe he was, or maybe he was actually carrrying an injury and not really as effective at the end of the season because of that. Without something more concrete I'd not personally believe that. I doubt Eddie would pick him if he thought he was. 

 

It's difficult to see how anyone can give him the benefit of the doubt considering what has happened this summer. He has shown that he is astonishingly unprofessional.