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2 minutes ago, Scotty66 said:

Just seen a clip of Arne slut getting interviewed by Sky and being asked where he gets his transfer updates from.

 

Proceeds to then name drop Romano and sucks off Sky Sports.

 

Corrupt as fuck.

 

His 'nice, humble guy' mask has well and truly slipped for that prick now, he's fully bought into the dipper mentality. Offended by everything, ashamed by nothing, act like they're under siege from the rest of the nation, yet are the media darlings.

 

Compare and contrast with Howe. If a reporter asked about the Wissa saga for e.g. you just know he'd reply with 'it's not appropriate to comment on another teams player' 'I don't pay attention to that, my focus is on preparing my players for the next game' or something like that

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12 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

I wouldn't be surprised if all the affected clubs didn't have a chat and agree this can't succeed and that we'll all hold firm for the good of the game.

Big six will think of an idea and Masters will just go with it. 
 

possibly something like.

If any of the big six have a problem with a player refusing to play. Then the opponents have to play with 9 men. 

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13 minutes ago, Emotic said:

Nicolas Jackson is now refusing to return to Chelsea after they blocked his loan to Bayern [emoji38] A veritable epidemic of stroppiness this window. Clubs should be worried. The Isak Affair might really be a test case for how to manage these player strikes going forward.

 

Not to condone it, but Chelsea tell Jackson they don't want him anymore. Tell him to find another club, aye an injury is why they've changed their mind, but I can see why he's fuming.

 

He'll barely play as a back up, should still be professional though.

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6 minutes ago, 54 said:

This is far from an ideal situation, there is no "good" option, we just need to make it out of the window with what suits us best. As I see it there are two different options, that could set long term precedents.

 

1) Isak stay's after rejecting £130m bid, he for all intents and purposes gets forced to join the squad again, the players don't like it they are livid with how he's acted, he doesn't like it so probably doesn't provide maximum effort, Howe doesn't like it, and it disrupts our season, and we'd likely have a poor season because of it, or he trains alone for a year, and his value depreciates. Either way all season, it'll be a story round our necks. 

 

2) We sell for slightly under his value, we have a squad that is unified and want to progress and do as well as they can, but there is a chance going forward that players try the same tactic again. 

 

Option 1 is way worse than option 2 in my opinion. Then again I just want him fucked off, and want the story to just be gone, its fucking tiring. 

Option 2 in your scenario holds more or less weight depending on if the bid comes in and how much. Too much noise from Craig no Hope and Ben jacobs that 120 will be it and will be enough.

 

Context around having 30ish million book value to remove from that and reported 10 or 15% sell on fee weakens the bid from a financial gain prospective for us. 

 

Obviously he may still refuse to integrate after the window closes and we have no fee and no player and the media circus that will follow with that till Jan so keeping him is also a risk. 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, 54 said:

This is far from an ideal situation, there is no "good" option, we just need to make it out of the window with what suits us best. As I see it there are two different options, that could set long term precedents.

 

1) Isak stay's after rejecting £130m bid, he for all intents and purposes gets forced to join the squad again, the players don't like it they are livid with how he's acted, he doesn't like it so probably doesn't provide maximum effort, Howe doesn't like it, and it disrupts our season, and we'd likely have a poor season because of it, or he trains alone for a year, and his value depreciates. Either way all season, it'll be a story round our necks. 

 

2) We sell for slightly under his value, we have a squad that is unified and want to progress and do as well as they can, but there is a chance going forward that players try the same tactic again. 

 

Option 1 is way worse than option 2 in my opinion. Then again I just want him fucked off, and want the story to just be gone, its fucking tiring. 

 

The value depreciating is an assumption and tbh worth it if it happened anyway. The value is the amount that we want and hold out for. If Isak wants to waste a year then he can do that, but I'd be more than happy to call his bluff on that one.

 

Him training alone is an example to the other players, clubs (Liverpool being left with 1 striker) and agents as to what happens if you try pulling this shit with us. 

 

Yes it would be a story that we'd have to deal with, but we should deal with it and not cave in on our price in a situation where we're the ONLY club that will have.

 

 

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I'm still 50/50 on whether this happens.

 

Yes, his position seems untenable at the club right now. Shameful behaviour that is hard to see him being forgiven for.

 

But Liverpool are clearly waiting for a last-minute £120-125m offer which is just nowhere near good enough.

 

Let's hope Brentford/Wolves stay strong too. If we undersell Isak and overpay on Wissa/JSL, we've massively fucked up.

 

Bid #2 is definitely coming. Things will get nervy. But I think the values are still far apart.

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2 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said:

 

Not to condone it, but Chelsea tell Jackson they don't want him anymore. Tell him to find another club, aye an injury is why they've changed their mind, but I can see why he's fuming.

 

He'll barely play as a back up, should still be professional though.

The thing about this is ... I wonder if we will hear any comments like "well, Chelsea have give into the player's wishes now or else nobody will ever sign for them again."

 

You know, the way it's actually in NUFC's best interests to sell Isak at a discount.

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17 minutes ago, gdm said:

Got to say I feel for Jackson. Chelsea signed 2 strikers and touted him about all summer only for them to fuck him about now that one of their shiny new signings got injured. 

I bet Botmans cheekbone doesn't feel sorry for him :lol:

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4 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said:

I'm still 50/50 on whether this happens.

 

Yes, his position seems untenable at the club right now. Shameful behaviour that is hard to see him being forgiven for.

 

But Liverpool are clearly waiting for a last-minute £120-125m offer which is just nowhere near good enough.

 

Let's hope Brentford/Wolves stay strong too. If we undersell Isak and overpay on Wissa/JSL, we've massively fucked up.

 

Bid #2 is definitely coming. Things will get nervy. But I think the values are still far apart.

Just have to hope the club turn it down 

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11 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

So just over 24 hours left, what’s everyone’s predictions for how this/ the window in general ends for us?

I think it will be a good window maybe 1 more player in possibly a loan with an obligation on top.

 

I feel hopeful we have done good business but worried its enough as we seem to lack goals in the side and our "B"/rotation side looked so poor yesterday.

 

Isak unfortunately that last secret meeting and Howe now publicly saying they aren't talking it doesn't sound like we will keep hold of Isak I also dont think it will be the financially beneficial to us either. I just hope we get good money and a replacement in as dont want to limp to January get embarrassed in the champions league and write off a season thanks to the lanky streak of piss.

 

No gaurentees on the quality of who we have brought in working ( I know no signing is gaurenteed but no one brought in is a "banker" to do well).

 

 

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10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

So just over 24 hours left, what’s everyone’s predictions for how this/ the window in general ends for us?

I really have no idea how this plays out but I'm happy its almost over with. 

 

 

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Really can’t see us selling as clearly won’t get an offer anywhere near what we want.

 

As much as we hate Isak though, at the end of the day what we care about is winning. So if he is integrated, I don’t really see any problems. Especially now he has genuine competition for his place.

 

Lets be honest last year start and end of season he hardly contributed more than Osula in many matches. Often he was invisible. Probably he was affected mentally by all this and the “broken promises” but when he realised he needed to (to get his move) he performed. He will do that again IMO. Just won’t be able to do nothing on the pitch anymore as someone is now there to take over, which was never really the case last season.

 

 

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Ornstein said on skysports that Liverpool doesn't plan on bidding because they think their official offer of 110 is enough, maybe going up to 120 like their first informal offer.

 

They're gonna wait for us to come to them.

 

I hope we dont open the door for them.  I pray Eddie feels he can reintegrate him..

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29 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:


Let’s be realistic, a massive global investment fund aren’t going to make a decision on a £100m+ asset based on what a thousand or so pissed up Geordies are singing in an away end 

 

And when it comes to “fans will make his life unbearable if he stays and plays”. We couldn’t even get a large percentage of match going fans to back protests against Ashley strangling the club to death. So I doubt Ratboy has much to fear from the stands if he ever plays for us again 

 

 

 

If Isak scores a brace against Sunderland or Barcelona there'll be 53k lining up to suck him off.

 

I'd probably fly over from Australia and join the queue to be honest.

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16 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

So just over 24 hours left, what’s everyone’s predictions for how this/ the window in general ends for us?

Isak staying and an out of the blue midfielder signing

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It makes absolutely no business sense to sell him on thr cheap, I really can't see it happening regardless of Isaks stance on his position here. The valuation gap is too big and the dippers won't and probably can't pay the fee we command for him. I'm convinced he stays.

 

What that means in the long run I think is irrelevant. Isak may stay on strike out of stubbornness, but it won't last, he can't spend a year out of the game, we'll let him stew and he'll come back when he realises he has to play himself into a move.

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5 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

Ornstein said on skysports that Liverpool doesn't plan on bidding because they think their official offer of 110 is enough, maybe going up to 120 like their first informal offer.

 

They're gonna wait for us to come to them.

 

I hope we dont open the door for them.  I pray Eddie feels he can reintegrate him..

Yeah, we're to come over and kiss the ring.

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IF liverpool are waiting for us to call them and deal at the price they demand maybe Caulkin is right. And this is a we've tried transfer for them. 

 

Very odd they value a german midget who's totally unproven in this league higher than one of he best strikers in the world. 

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7 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

Ornstein said on skysports that Liverpool doesn't plan on bidding because they think their official offer of 110 is enough, maybe going up to 120 like their first informal offer.

 

They're gonna wait for us to come to them.

 

I hope we dont open the door for them.  I pray Eddie feels he can reintegrate him..

Ornstein can fuck off as well. So can VAR.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

Ornstein said on skysports that Liverpool doesn't plan on bidding because they think their official offer of 110 is enough, maybe going up to 120 like their first informal offer.

 

They're gonna wait for us to come to them.

 

I hope we dont open the door for them.  I pray Eddie feels he can reintegrate him..

Honestly this is straight from Liverpools PR team, they are the club that needs a striker signing, not Brentford, not Wolves, not here. 
 

Liverpools game here is to try and panic PIF etc, but sit tight and Liverpool are the ones who will blink.  If they don’t bid great, makes Isak rejoining easier as he’ll feel like a mug.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

Ornstein said on skysports that Liverpool doesn't plan on bidding because they think their official offer of 110 is enough, maybe going up to 120 like their first informal offer.

 

They're gonna wait for us to come to them.

 

I hope we dont open the door for them.  I pray Eddie feels he can reintegrate him..

Us "coming to them" is nonsense, like. "Hi Liverpool, this player doesn't want to play for us and only wants to come to you. Want him?". Liverpool can tell us "75 million or get fucked". We all seem to forget that the selling club literally holds all the cards in this situation, although the fans feel otherwise. It'd be crazy to capitulate this way.

 

The only thing that makes sense is if the two clubs have already worked out the selling price way in advance, and the only hurdle is the second striker for us. That, I can see happening.

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