mighty__mag Posted Tuesday at 08:42 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:42 Must kill them we have both Isak and Bruno, while they opted for Rice and Jesus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted Tuesday at 08:51 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:51 (edited) We got Bruno and Tonali for not much more than they paid for Rice Rice is obviously quality player, but they could have signed James Ward-Prowse and probably have picked up more points this season. Edited Tuesday at 09:29 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Tuesday at 09:09 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:09 On 14/01/2025 at 08:51, Hanshithispantz said: We got Bruno and Tonali for not much more than they paid for Rice Rice is obvioua qualoty player, but they could have signed James Ward-Prowse and probably have picked up more points this season. Expand Settle down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted Tuesday at 09:18 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:18 We can enjoy our own players without needing to shit on others. Rice is a good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted Tuesday at 09:22 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:22 On 14/01/2025 at 09:18, alexf said: We can enjoy our own players without needing to shit on others. Rice is a good player. Expand I didn't see it as shitting on the players, more shitting on the fees/spending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted Tuesday at 09:28 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:28 On 14/01/2025 at 09:22, hakka said: I didn't see it as shitting on the players, more shitting on the fees/spending. Expand Aye he's a good player, the fee was absurd and it's funny he's now a glorified set piece specialist because Arteta apparently cannot set a team up without Saka in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Tuesday at 09:31 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:31 (edited) On 14/01/2025 at 08:51, Hanshithispantz said: We got Bruno and Tonali for not much more than they paid for Rice Rice is obviously quality player, but they could have signed James Ward-Prowse and probably have picked up more points this season. Expand Those two combined cost less than Rice, I thought? Circa £35-40m and £50-55m for Tonali. I thought Rice was £100-105m? Not so sure on that second paragraph I think Rice is a great player. Certainly not been as effective this season under Mikel Pulis’ new setup. Edited Tuesday at 09:32 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 09:39 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:39 There’s always an English premium, but regardless Rice is a superb midfielder and we’ve seen that when he played against us in the past for West Ham and for Arsenal. Bruno and Tonali are clearly excellent midfielders too. Push comes to shove I think Rice is just about the best player of the three, but there’s not much in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted Tuesday at 09:50 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:50 The James Ward-Prowse comment was a jibe at the fact Rice's most import quality has become his ability to whip a lethal ball in. Like I said he's a quality midfielder He hasn't improved Arsenal though, not that he personally would have been a bad buy in isolation but he was part of them spunking a load of money to go backwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted Tuesday at 09:54 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:54 The helmets on Morning Transfers on SSN banging the Isak to Arsenal drum yet again with Jesus out for the season - imbeciles! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Tuesday at 09:57 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:57 On 14/01/2025 at 09:50, Hanshithispantz said: The James Ward-Prowse comment was a jibe at the fact Rice's most import quality has become his ability to whip a lethal ball in. Like I said he's a quality midfielder He hasn't improved Arsenal though, not that he personally would have been a bad buy in isolation but he was part of them spunking a load of money to go backwards. Expand Yeah. I was talking to my Arsenal supporting mate the other day. Don't worry, one of the sound ones. Said we're the best team to come to the Emirates and properly did a job on them. Made it so that most of their chance were rushed, frustrated them, defended so well for the most part etc. Anyway, I digress. He was saying they have spent loads of money on what have ended up being squad players. They still rely so much on Saka, for his goals, assists, creating space for everyone else, his great delivery from set pieces. So everything in an attacking sense, basically I know most teams would struggle without their star player. But you would have thought they would at least have a couple of other dangerous attacking players they could call on. Still no striker, loads of sort of middling (by their standards) midfielders, a lot of defensive options. Just lacking standouts at the business end of the pitch. He just thinks for the most part, the money has been wasted and they've regressed as a footballing side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted Tuesday at 10:13 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:13 On 14/01/2025 at 08:16, ExiledGeordie said: If we don’t get champions league I think it’s pretty likely that he’ll go (champions league, tilt at league title, massive wage increase) and we’ll completely revamp the side with the money moving forwards. If we get champions league no way he goes. Expand Either way we win, but I’d obviously prefer the first scenario. As I’ve said before, of all our “purples” Isak is the one I’d be most wary of losing as he’s irreplaceable, whereas I think the likes of Gordon, Bruno, Botman and even Tonali would be missed but could be replaced with similar quality players allowing to further develop the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted Tuesday at 10:24 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:24 On 14/01/2025 at 09:57, Lush Vlad said: Yeah. I was talking to my Arsenal supporting mate the other day. Don't worry, one of the sound ones. Said we're the best team to come to the Emirates and properly did a job on them. Made it so that most of their chance were rushed, frustrated them, defended so well for the most part etc. Anyway, I digress. He was saying they have spent loads of money on what have ended up being squad players. They still rely so much on Saka, for his goals, assists, creating space for everyone else, his great delivery from set pieces. So everything in an attacking sense, basically I know most teams would struggle without their star player. But you would have thought they would at least have a couple of other dangerous attacking players they could call on. Still no striker, loads of sort of middling (by their standards) midfielders, a lot of defensive options. Just lacking standouts at the business end of the pitch. He just thinks for the most part, the money has been wasted and they've regressed as a footballing side. Expand It's funny because in that infamous draw which broke Arteta, where were were pressing teams off the park, went to the Emirates and had to resort to a low block and shithousing within 5 minutes as they played through us with ease. That Arsenal seems to have just disappeared. Arteta's clearly a good manager, but he's fucked something major up in the past year or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted Tuesday at 10:30 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:30 On 13/01/2025 at 11:05, AyeDubbleYoo said: Such a depressing thread for the best player we’ve had for decades. Expand It’s been like this for time immemorial. Best player at the club, one of the shittest threads on the forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted Tuesday at 11:21 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:21 On 13/01/2025 at 20:32, FloydianMag said: Expand Player interviewed in own dressing room says nice things about club shock Always nice to hear positive words, but this kind of thing is pretty meaningless in terms of telling us anything at all about his long-term thoughts etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted Tuesday at 11:31 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:31 On 14/01/2025 at 11:21, Chris_R said: Player interviewed in own dressing room says nice things about club shock Always nice to hear positive words, but this kind of thing is pretty meaningless in terms of telling us anything at all about his long-term thoughts etc. Expand I dunno... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted Tuesday at 11:32 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:32 On 14/01/2025 at 11:21, Chris_R said: Player interviewed in own dressing room says nice things about club shock Always nice to hear positive words, but this kind of thing is pretty meaningless in terms of telling us anything at all about his long-term thoughts etc. Expand Read it however you like, who cares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted Tuesday at 11:40 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:40 Mad that Isak can break Shearers record of consecutive games scored in. You just know Isak will do it, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted Tuesday at 11:52 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:52 On 14/01/2025 at 11:31, Skeletor said: I dunno... Expand Not saying all players will always say nice things about their own club, just that when they do it's not really that telling. He's said pretty vanilla things there, in a scripted, planned interview from a friendly interviewer. On 14/01/2025 at 11:32, FloydianMag said: Read it however you like, who cares. Expand If you're going to take the "who cares" attitude to people's opinions on an internet message board, it's probably best you log off and find something else to do. Literally the purpose of this place is for people to post opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Tuesday at 11:56 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:56 On 14/01/2025 at 09:18, alexf said: We can enjoy our own players without needing to shit on others. Rice is a good player. Expand He is a good player but it's a fair point that we got Bruno and Tonali combined for the sort of money they spent on Rice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted Tuesday at 12:21 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:21 On 14/01/2025 at 11:56, TRon said: He is a good player but it's a fair point that we got Bruno and Tonali combined for the sort of money they spent on Rice. Expand I think Tonali will be a better player too. Bruno's a different kind of midfielder, has some obvious weaknesses, and isn't as 'complete', but Tonali can pretty much be directly compared. If offered now I wouldn't swap either for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted Tuesday at 12:22 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:22 Rice is an elite player, with the added "home grown" label. Whilst we got Bruno and Tonali for the price of Rice, we'd not sell them for that price combined. We'd look for £100m each I'd imagine, and if you consider Rice to be in the same bracket footballing-wise (It feels churlish to suggest he isn't) then they've not really overpaid - especially since he's English so doesn't take up an overseas place. Because we got bargains doesn't mean they overpaid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted Tuesday at 12:25 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:25 (edited) On 14/01/2025 at 12:22, Chris_R said: Rice is an elite player, with the added "home grown" label. Whilst we got Bruno and Tonali for the price of Rice, we'd not sell them for that price combined. We'd look for £100m each I'd imagine, and if you consider Rice to be in the same bracket footballing-wise (It feels churlish to suggest he isn't) then they've not really overpaid - especially since he's English so doesn't take up an overseas place. Because we got bargains doesn't mean they overpaid. Expand They've overpaid because he hasn't improved them. I don't think his price was wrong in that market, it was just a bad buy in combination with what else they were doing. Edited Tuesday at 12:25 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted Tuesday at 12:29 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:29 On 14/01/2025 at 12:25, Hanshithispantz said: They've overpaid because he hasn't improved them. I don't think his price was wrong in that market, it was just a bad buy in combination with what else they were doing. Expand To expand on this, Arsenal thought they were pretty much a settled team, and like City were in the state of being able to improve their squad with huge buys every year. They weren't and they should have spent that £100m better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted Tuesday at 12:29 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:29 On 14/01/2025 at 12:22, Chris_R said: Rice is an elite player, with the added "home grown" label. Whilst we got Bruno and Tonali for the price of Rice, we'd not sell them for that price combined. We'd look for £100m each I'd imagine, and if you consider Rice to be in the same bracket footballing-wise (It feels churlish to suggest he isn't) then they've not really overpaid - especially since he's English so doesn't take up an overseas place. Because we got bargains doesn't mean they overpaid. Expand They are now signing zubimendi, who is another defensive minded midfielder. Rice and Zubimendi together is like when Southgate used to play rice and Phillips together, it’s solid but lacks creativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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