healthyaddiction Posted Thursday at 13:14 Share Posted Thursday at 13:14 3 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: Isak is wanted by a host of top clubs. To the point we've slapped a £150m price tag on him. Is anyone actually after Hojlund? Nooooooo don't restart it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Thursday at 13:19 Share Posted Thursday at 13:19 4 minutes ago, TRon said: Honestly it annoys the fuck out of me that players like Isak would most probably love to sign a new contract for life here if we were able to match the wages of the super league cartel clubs. We have the money to pay those wages as well. The whole system is rigged and needs to be ripped asap. There's salaries coming off the books at the end of the season. We're also looking far more likely to be in Europe. He'll get a new deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Thursday at 13:22 Share Posted Thursday at 13:22 Just now, KaKa said: There's salaries coming off the books at the end of the season. We're also looking far more likely to be in Europe. He'll get a new deal. Yes if things keep going well I agree. If we get CL he will definitely sign a new deal, don't think he would want to be anywhere else playing his football everything else being equal. I just find it very annoying that the game is rigged in such a way that clubs like ours are incentivised to fail by selling our best players unless we can somehow keep getting CL football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
konvaljen Posted Thursday at 13:27 Share Posted Thursday at 13:27 Not going to compare Isak with Højlund because I do find that a bit silly. However, Isak was absolutely a proved player already before joining Newcastle, there is no question about that. He didn’t have the same consistency as he has now, and has obviously improved further. But already att Real Sociedad he was a top player. Made me think of when him and Ødegaard shredded Real Madrid in copa del rey 2020. Was fun to rewatch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Thursday at 13:29 Share Posted Thursday at 13:29 4 minutes ago, TRon said: Yes if things keep going well I agree. If we get CL he will definitely sign a new deal, don't think he would want to be anywhere else playing his football everything else being equal. I just find it very annoying that the game is rigged in such a way that clubs like ours are incentivised to fail by selling our best players unless we can somehow keep getting CL football. Well we're going to do it and he's going to sign. Save your energy. Let them be the one's annoyed that they're not signing him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted Thursday at 13:41 Share Posted Thursday at 13:41 26 minutes ago, TRon said: Honestly it annoys the fuck out of me that players like Isak would most probably love to sign a new contract for life here if we were able to match the wages of the super league cartel clubs. We have the money to pay those wages as well. The whole system is rigged and needs to be ripped asap. These are features, not bugs. System is working as intended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bally21 Posted Thursday at 13:51 Share Posted Thursday at 13:51 1 hour ago, HayDen Traces said: Merson needs to piss off with this shit. Its tiresome. https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/13282728/paul-merson-arsenal-need-to-break-the-bank-for-newcastles-alexander-isak Isak will probably leave Newcastle one day (hopefully a day a long way in the future), but he's going to a bigger club than arsenal surely - for me if he ever leaves he goes to real Madrid, Barcelona or bayern, he is that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Thursday at 14:13 Share Posted Thursday at 14:13 11 minutes ago, Chris_R said: These are features, not bugs. System is working as intended. As far as I can see the clubs with tighter restrictions have improved by getting better managers and coaching in, and are doing a better job with their recruitment. It's sharpening them. Meanwhile the clubs with all the money don't seem to be hitting the mark as often, if anything having that extra money seems to make them lazier in the market, or too risk averse. I'm not sure how well this whole thing is working out for them. Especially now PSR is making it harder to spend huge sums on multiple players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted Thursday at 14:16 Share Posted Thursday at 14:16 https://www.premierleague.com/awards/goal-of-the-month/2024-25/december Get ya votes in!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Thursday at 14:20 Share Posted Thursday at 14:20 4 minutes ago, KaKa said: As far as I can see the clubs with tighter restrictions have improved by getting better managers and coaching in, and are doing a better job with their recruitment. It's sharpening them. Meanwhile the clubs with all the money don't seem to be hitting the mark as often, if anything having that extra money seems to make them lazier in the market, or too risk averse. I'm not sure how well this whole thing is working out for them. Especially now PSR is making it harder to spend huge sums on multiple players. Eventually having more money to spend on resources results in more success. That's precisely why the cartel clubs have fought so hard to make sure only they get to spend their resources. Long term they will pay bigger fees and wages. Look where Chelsea and Man City were before their £billions spending spree if you doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Thursday at 14:22 Share Posted Thursday at 14:22 4 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: https://www.premierleague.com/awards/goal-of-the-month/2024-25/december Get ya votes in!! Diallo vs. Man City is such a ridiculously overhyped goal. Even his finish was scuffed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted Thursday at 14:23 Share Posted Thursday at 14:23 Just now, RodneyCisse said: https://www.premierleague.com/awards/goal-of-the-month/2024-25/december Get ya votes in!! Isak, Unai and Cunha were fantastic goals. Chris Wood's was pretty good too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Thursday at 14:25 Share Posted Thursday at 14:25 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TRon said: Eventually having more money to spend on resources results in more success. That's precisely why the cartel clubs have fought so hard to make sure only they get to spend their resources. Long term they will pay bigger fees and wages. Look where Chelsea and Man City were before their £billions spending spree if you doubt it. I think the other Prem clubs have come a long way since then. There are hardly any more bottom of the barrel managers at these clubs like Pardew, Pulis, Bruce or Allardyce etc. Recruitment at these clubs has also improved massively. They are also now in position to charge extortionate fees if interest is shown in their players. I don't think this thing is going to work out like those so called cartel clubs envisioned. I think we are seeing it when we look at the table too. Edited Thursday at 14:27 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted Thursday at 14:28 Share Posted Thursday at 14:28 1 minute ago, KaKa said: I think the other Prem clubs have come a long way since then. There are hardly any more bottom of the barrel managers at these clubs like Pardew, Plus, Bruce or Allardyce etc. Recruitment at these clubs has also improved massively. They are also now in position to charge extortionate fees if interest is shown in their players. I don't think this thing is going to work out like those so called cartel clubs envisioned. Clubs outside the 'big six' also have less pressure, so players can develop naturally rather than have to be world beaters instantly. We have to find a happy medium between the two of we want to challenge at the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Thursday at 15:03 Share Posted Thursday at 15:03 35 minutes ago, KaKa said: I think the other Prem clubs have come a long way since then. There are hardly any more bottom of the barrel managers at these clubs like Pardew, Pulis, Bruce or Allardyce etc. Recruitment at these clubs has also improved massively. They are also now in position to charge extortionate fees if interest is shown in their players. I don't think this thing is going to work out like those so called cartel clubs envisioned. I think we are seeing it when we look at the table too. Yes but all the cartel clubs can spend money on improving their recruitment as well. It's not an advantage for us per se. If anything, they have more resources to hire the best people, the best managers, the best CEOs etc. It's great that there are clubs outsmarting them at the moment, but you can't count on that as some baked in advantage in the future, whereas the cartel can absolutely count on PSR and FFP to shut out any clubs threatening their positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted Thursday at 15:11 Share Posted Thursday at 15:11 54 minutes ago, KaKa said: As far as I can see the clubs with tighter restrictions have improved by getting better managers and coaching in, and are doing a better job with their recruitment. It's sharpening them. Meanwhile the clubs with all the money don't seem to be hitting the mark as often, if anything having that extra money seems to make them lazier in the market, or too risk averse. I'm not sure how well this whole thing is working out for them. Especially now PSR is making it harder to spend huge sums on multiple players. The cartel will wise up to this. Chelsea kinda have, hoovering up all the youth in the world and trying to flip them for profit. They've gone to extemes though and fucked themselves a bit in the process but the intent was there and it might yet work out. And we've already had Man U take Ashworth off us. That'll be the next stage, that instead of buying our players for silly money they'll buy our recruitment teams and scouts. There's no long-term benefit in being held back financially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted Thursday at 15:15 Share Posted Thursday at 15:15 There literally isn't a club in the world who could afford him now. Barring him going on strike to force a move somewhere...what are the options? Arsenal...why bother they can't afford him and we're as likely to win trophies as they are Liverpool....not till Salahs milked them of his last big deal Chelsea....ran out of hotels Man U...pmsl PSG...decent players have figured out that playing in France is more or less pointless Bayern...probably could afford the wages, but not exactly known for paying for top talent unless it comes from Dortmund Juventus/Inter/Milan....simply don't have the funds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted Thursday at 15:35 Share Posted Thursday at 15:35 Barcelona and Real would be about it?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted Thursday at 15:42 Share Posted Thursday at 15:42 6 minutes ago, OverThere said: Barcelona and Real would be about it?? Barcelona can't even afford the players they already own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Thursday at 15:42 Share Posted Thursday at 15:42 24 minutes ago, TRon said: Yes but all the cartel clubs can spend money on improving their recruitment as well. It's not an advantage for us per se. If anything, they have more resources to hire the best people, the best managers, the best CEOs etc. It's great that there are clubs outsmarting them at the moment, but you can't count on that as some baked in advantage in the future, whereas the cartel can absolutely count on PSR and FFP to shut out any clubs threatening their positions. 16 minutes ago, Chris_R said: The cartel will wise up to this. Chelsea kinda have, hoovering up all the youth in the world and trying to flip them for profit. They've gone to extemes though and fucked themselves a bit in the process but the intent was there and it might yet work out. And we've already had Man U take Ashworth off us. That'll be the next stage, that instead of buying our players for silly money they'll buy our recruitment teams and scouts. There's no long-term benefit in being held back financially. PSR and FFP is going to screw them over too. They have more money and are also spending more, but that doesn't come with any guarantees. Man Utd have to sell to buy currently, due to their reckless spending. Theres only so long you can keep spending so much money so recklessly and that includes the staff they keep hiring and firing, like Ashworth, and not just the players! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Thursday at 16:06 Share Posted Thursday at 16:06 22 minutes ago, KaKa said: PSR and FFP is going to screw them over too. They have more money and are also spending more, but that doesn't come with any guarantees. Man Utd have to sell to buy currently, due to their reckless spending. Theres only so long you can keep spending so much money so recklessly and that includes the staff they keep hiring and firing, like Ashworth, and not just the players! Man U are having to sell to buy because their American owners have been using them as a cash cow and siphoning off the profits for themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Thursday at 16:13 Share Posted Thursday at 16:13 4 minutes ago, TRon said: Man U are having to sell to buy because their American owners have been using them as a cash cow and siphoning off the profits for themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted Thursday at 16:14 Share Posted Thursday at 16:14 No more cute 1 v 1 attempts Alex, just leather it please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted Thursday at 16:35 Share Posted Thursday at 16:35 58 minutes ago, OverThere said: Barcelona and Real would be about it?? City when Haaland leaves in a couple of years and a new manager wants to reshape the team. (Although there may be 115 reasons why that won't happen) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted Thursday at 19:23 Share Posted Thursday at 19:23 This video is just pure Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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