et tu brute Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Jack27 said: Bollocks man. It’s been a couple of weeks Not bollacks at all, he needs to be getting games not sitting on his arse most of the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghKuol Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Not bollacks at all, he needs to be getting games not sitting on his arse most of the time This is the first game he's not played? Hearts manager definitely went for experience tonight and tbh it was the right decision. Into the quarters after a tricky second half in poor conditions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 He's had 2x45 minutes (inc 1 against Rangers) and 20 minutes in another game in 3 weeks. It's probably on par if not more than he'd been playing at home in Australia. I don't think that's shabby at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Just now, EdinburghKuol said: This is the first game he's not played? Hearts manager definitely went for experience tonight and tbh it was the right decision. Into the quarters after a tricky second half in poor conditions. No it’s not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghKuol Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, gdm said: No it’s not You're right - I didn't realise he was on the bench for the Hearts Hibs derby. Straight into the matchday squad for Edinburgh derby after arriving was prob a good experience for him too. Edited February 10, 2023 by EdinburghKuol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 13 mins vs St Mirren Ill vs Aberdeen Unused sub vs Hibs 45 mins vs Livingston 45 mins vs Rangers (started the match) 21 mins vs Dundee Utd Unused sub vs Hamilton Just over 120 mins in 6 matches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: He's had 2x45 minutes (inc 1 against Rangers) and 20 minutes in another game in 3 weeks. It's probably on par if not more than he'd been playing at home in Australia. I don't think that's shabby at all. Hes's played 122 minutes in six games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghKuol Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Paullow said: 13 mins vs St Mirren Ill vs Aberdeen Unused sub vs Hibs 45 mins vs Livingston 45 mins vs Rangers (started the match) 21 mins vs Dundee Utd Unused sub vs Hamilton Just over 120 mins in 6 matches 120 minutes of top flight football in 20 days, you say? (I notice you are not including injury time...tut tut.) How much would he got for Newcastle United? Or even in the A-league... Are you sure this is evidence for your argument? Anyway, it's a pity he didn't start the night - he was certainly close to starting after an impressive substitute experience a few days ago. Edited February 10, 2023 by EdinburghKuol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Hes's played 122 minutes in six games He's 18 and had barely started a game before arriving here. You were expecting him to all of a sudden play regularly at a level above what he'd been at?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 He didn't start in Aus. Seemed to come on for the last 20 mins or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: He's 18 and had barely started a game before arriving here. You were expecting him to all of a sudden play regularly at a level above what he'd been at?. Anderson did Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghKuol Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, et tu brute said: Anderson did From that famous Australian town, Whitley Bay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Exactly. He's gaining a lot more being part of a first-team setup in front of 19k home crowds in a team getting good results. He'll get his chances. Far better than playing in front of no-one for our U23s training alongside the likes of Vilca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Anderson did At an older age Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Anderson did At the same age, Anderson had never started a senior game of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghKuol Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) Btw, there was a chance that Kuol could have came in and started regularly for us. He definitely has the ability to be a high performer in the SPFL even as a teenager, but we've only lost one game in our last 13, so it's not so easy. That's the challenge however. If he moved to a team further down the table then he'd be getting more minutes. But I really don't think that's what he needs. Training with boys like Craig Gordon, Robert Snodgrass, Stephen Kingsley etc... every day. That's what he needs. It's a good challenging level for him. Edited February 10, 2023 by EdinburghKuol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: At the same age, Anderson had never started a senior game of football. It was the first time he was out on loan though and it's not like he was massively older either and Kuol has played senior football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Kuol’s been to a World Cup and played a big part. I do think he needs more regular minutes for his development. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, EdinburghKuol said: 120 minutes of top flight football in 20 days, you say? (I notice you are not including injury time...tut tut.) How much would he got for Newcastle United? Or even in the A-league... Are you sure this is evidence for your argument? Anyway, it's a pity he didn't start the night - he was certainly close to starting after an impressive substitute experience a few days ago. Don’t even bother with them man. They’re talking absolute shit. He’s only 18 ffs. He wouldn’t be training with the first team here. He’d be with the U23s/reserves here, maybe playing 60 minutes on a cold night in Darlington in front of 100 people against other kids that are 18. Up north he’s getting plenty of time to adjust to the environment of being around the first team of a club that plays in front of thousands every week. Learning the routine. Traveling. Being around seasoned pros. Getting minutes in a pretty tough/physical league. He’s getting great experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 How will he ever get these 5 weeks back?! May as well send him to Thailand now to join Vuckic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghKuol Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LV said: Kuol’s been to a World Cup and played a big part. I do think he needs more regular minutes for his development. Prior to joining Newcastle/Hearts he had played 21 professional matches....in his life. And nearly all of them were as a sub. He's played over 120 minutes in the last few weeks. That's probably like 20% of his whole career. (I know these maths don't check out) Edited February 10, 2023 by EdinburghKuol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, cubaricho said: Don’t even bother with them man. They’re talking absolute shit. He’s only 18 ffs. He wouldn’t be training with the first team here. He’d be with the U23s/reserves here, maybe playing 60 minutes on a cold night in Darlington in front of 100 people against other kids that are 18. Up north he’s getting plenty of time to adjust to the environment of being around the first team of a club that plays in front of thousands every week. Learning the routine. Traveling. Being around seasoned pros. Getting minutes in a pretty tough/physical league. He’s getting great experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonScotman Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 It’s okay hearts play Motherwell next Sunday I’m sure he’ll start against my team and bag a hat trick to turn him into a superstar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) Our own signings don't play straight away, regardless of how good they are, they're eased in and given time to develop. I'm sure that's exactly what Garang is doing. All I care about is his development, game time isn't the be-all-and-end-all at this stange. The idea that an 18 old kid is going to travel to the other side of the world, settle in, understand everything he needs to do tactically, and get straight into the first team seems unrealistic anyway, we're talking about someone who has 34 appearances at any level. A bit of patience costs nothing. Edited February 10, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Quite bizarre that his only start came against Rangers as well. If he's generally going to be a bit part player, then, as a watching on observer you'd probably have preferred that to have been against a weaker side for more chance of an impact. Can't start against the likes of Dundee United and Hamilton, but straight into the XI against Rangers. Anyway, it is still pretty early days, but if he wasn't considered an obvious starter, which I wasn't really expecting to be honest, then I'd have hoped for around 30 minutes in pretty much every game. Guess we'll see how the next 4 or so matches pan out, but if he is an unused sub in 2 of those and gets say 15 minutes here and there in the others, then it probably would have been more beneficial going to a Carlisle or somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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