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[Emotic]

9 minutes ago, Big Geordie said:

I would like to say that it's unbelievable that it wasn't given as a pen, but this kind of shite has been going on for 30 years at Old Trafford. It's nothing new.

Ryan Fraser being cleaned out by Ederson in our match with Man City in Dec 2021, and Schar being almost decapitated by Whiny Bruno when we beat Manu just two recent examples of “it’s not a foul if violence occurs against attackers in the box if the ball is out of control”.  VAR didn’t even look at those I don’t think, definitely not for the Schar one. 

 

 

Edited August 14, 2023 by Emotic

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

59 minutes ago, Pokerprince2004 said:

 

 

First 2 minutes, says PGMOL's Jonathan Moss has apologised. Michael Salisbury was on VAR - same ref who was VAR for Spurs v Brighton disgraceful performance last season. Guy needs sacking 

 

 

 

Not a fan of Wolves but hope O'Neil does well. Sound guy.

 

 

Edited August 14, 2023 by Super Duper Branko Strupar

[buzz]

2 hours ago, Pokerprince2004 said:

Gary O'Neil confirms the officials have apologised and it should have been a penalty

 

Well why the fuck wasn't it at the time then? 

 

Same thing that happened last season and will continue indefinitely. Blatant corrupt mistake, apology, swept under the rug.

[nemtizz]

According to Neville and Carragher we’re streets ahead of Chelsea and Man Utd but they’ve predicted we’re finishing below them both. 

 

Having said that these early predictions are a load of shite and I love that we’re still being overlooked once again. 

[Viana]

3 hours ago, simonsays said:

Nah, hes still good.  Will be fine if they get another midfielder who can actually defend to olay alongside him.  The Mount signing for them still baffles me

That's why I'm still not convinced by Ten Hag. 

 

Some of the signings he pushed for like Lisandro Martinez and Casemiro made sense, but he dropped a huge sum on Antony, and pushed for Eriksen/Mount despite them already having Fernandes. 

 

Now they're discussing Sofyan Amrabat meaning one of Bruno/Mount/Garnacho/Antony has to sit out alongside Sancho.

 

3 hours ago, TRon said:

 

Casimero was always going to be a short term signing at that age. Fabulous player for them last season, but probably a liability the longer this one goes on. He looked like he was fading at the end of the last campaign as well tbh.

Yeah, great if its a 2/3-year-deal. He's got a deal on huge money until 2026.

[Guest]

This clear and obvious thing is just a get out clause for the 'corrupt 6'

Newcastlea pen against arsenal looked like a clear and obvious handball until they got Columbo, miss Marple and Vera to investigate it. Absolutely the right decision in the end but the approach especially both being live games was somewhat different. Especially considering the man utd game was deep in injury time when it impacts the result 100%

[KingArthur]

7 hours ago, simonsays said:

Nah, hes still good.  Will be fine if they get another midfielder who can actually defend to olay alongside him.  The Mount signing for them still baffles me

They are not dropping Bruno, and Mount was not bought to be on the bench for 65 million. That midfield 3 does not seem to work. Early days and all that

[Ben]

4 hours ago, nemtizz said:

According to Neville and Carragher we’re streets ahead of Chelsea and Man Utd but they’ve predicted we’re finishing below them both. 

 

Having said that these early predictions are a load of shite and I love that we’re still being overlooked once again. 

I'm still angry about it, it was just so lazy, punditry at its worst, Carragher said his 'one to watch" this season was the Bournemouth manager !! I mean fuckin hell, one of the other Megaminds said the Man Utd keeper ffs. 

 

Us Brighton and Villa we're just ignored, I was hoping this could be the season a few of the top six we're replaced (at least temporarily for a season or two) but after watching last night's penalty decision maybe that's harder than I think 

[BennyBlanco]

I know one thing. Onana has at least one mistake in him per game. Makes erratic Barthez like decisions as well. He will cost them points and he will have the fans on his back before long.

[Froggy]

 

Reminded me of this at Old Trafford when Calvert-Lewin elbowed De Gea in the face as a cross came in. Everton scored. VAR awarded the goal. 

 

Obviously doesn't fit the corruption narrative that very silly people go on about, but it just shows the incompetence of the refs. 

[KingArthur]

1 minute ago, Froggy said:

 

Reminded me of this at Old Trafford when Calvert-Lewin elbowed De Gea in the face as a cross came in. Everton scored. VAR awarded the goal. 

 

Obviously doesn't fit the corruption narrative that very silly people go on about, but it just shows the incompetence of the refs. 

That is a foul, same when Wolves scored against us few seasons ago when Boly elbowed Dubravka

[Vedder]

9 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Reminded me of this at Old Trafford when Calvert-Lewin elbowed De Gea in the face as a cross came in. Everton scored. VAR awarded the goal. 

 

Obviously doesn't fit the corruption narrative that very silly people go on about, but it just shows the incompetence of the refs. 

At the same time you’re using one example to argue the case that you don’t on balance get favourable treatment from referees. It’s been going on for years, particularly at Old Trafford. Same for Liverpool in recent seasons.

[Tsunami]

It reminded me of when Ederson cleaned out Fraser and nothing was given. 
 

It’s just not a “normal” contact. The keeper is nowhere near the ball and takes a player out. There’s no separate rule or consideration for a keeper. Imagine a centre half missing the ball by that distance and cleaning out a centre forward. Instant yellow card. 

[Froggy]

50 minutes ago, Vedder said:

At the same time you’re using one example to argue the case that you don’t on balance get favourable treatment from referees. It’s been going on for years, particularly at Old Trafford. Same for Liverpool in recent seasons.

 

Since the introduction of VAR we absolutely do not receive preferential treatment and it's been debunked many, many times.  Last night was just a poor decision, one of many that will happen this season for all sides. 

 

There's not just one example by the way. Andy Carroll's scissor tackle on Eriksen last season? Not even a yellow card and injured Eriksen for months. At Old Trafford.

 

 

Martinez's "penalty" against Sociedad where the ball actually bounced up from his leg and hit his arm which was completely tucked in. VAR looked at it and kept the decision. At Old Trafford.

 

 

What about this clearly intentional handball from Juanmi, which they scored from? At Old Trafford.

 

 

What about Casemiro's red for choking Will Hughes who was laughing and joking with him. Fair enough if you think that's a red, but what about Ayew who did the exact same thing to Fred in the exact same sequence? Also at Old Trafford.

 

 

Casemiro was made an example of last season, but Lamela stamped on him and only got a yellow. Also at Old Trafford.

 

 

 

This is only last season.  But people would have you believe that absolutely nothing goes against Man United at Old Trafford. People still hurt from the 90's like to think we have some sort of sway over referees which is utter nonsense. Everybody has decisions go for and against them. 

[Hanshithispantz]

Are three of those not from Europe Froggy 

[bobbydazzla]

As someone who despises Man Utd I can say with complete confidence that every contentious decision that goes their way is a direct result of of corruption and bias 

 

 

Edited August 15, 2023 by bobbydazzla

[Bondedcrown]

17 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Since the introduction of VAR we absolutely do not receive preferential treatment and it's been debunked many, many times.  Last night was just a poor decision, one of many that will happen this season for all sides. 

 

There's not just one example by the way. Andy Carroll's scissor tackle on Eriksen last season? Not even a yellow card and injured Eriksen for months. At Old Trafford.

 

 

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Martinez's "penalty" against Sociedad where the ball actually bounced up from his leg and hit his arm which was completely tucked in. VAR looked at it and kept the decision. At Old Trafford.

 

 

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What about this clearly intentional handball from Juanmi, which they scored from? At Old Trafford.

 

 

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What about Casemiro's red for choking Will Hughes who was laughing and joking with him. Fair enough if you think that's a red, but what about Ayew who did the exact same thing to Fred in the exact same sequence? Also at Old Trafford.

 

 

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Casemiro was made an example of last season, but Lamela stamped on him and only got a yellow. Also at Old Trafford.

 

 

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This is only last season.  But people would have you believe that absolutely nothing goes against Man United at Old Trafford. People still hurt from the 90's like to think we have some sort of sway over referees which is utter nonsense. Everybody has decisions go for and against them. 

Awww! Bless!

 

[Froggy]

2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

Are three of those not from Europe Froggy 

 

Just five that came into my head at Old Trafford very recently. I can go back further if you like.  So many examples for and against for both teams.

 

I could mention Wilson's non penalty against us, but I could mention Burn's clear handball against Chelsea etc. Seem to remember an extremely harsh pen against Spurs for you as well that earned you a draw, but that's maybe a couple of years back. 

 

Then of course you have the fact that Newcastle benefitted more from VAR last season than Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal, City and Spurs. But for some reason people don't like that one.  For example if there was corruption why did they overturn Trippier's red against City? Why not just have another controversial decision to benefit the "big six" and keep on picking on little old Newcastle?

 

It's because it's all rubbish. There's no corruption. Refs are just shit.

 

 

[Froggy]

6 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

As someone who despises Man Utd I can say with complete confidence that every contentious decision that goes their way is because of corruption and bias 

 

 And this is fine. I'd be the exact same to be honest, but deep down I'd know there's no corruption. 

[SUPERTOON]

 

[KingArthur]

1 hour ago, Froggy said:

 

 

 

It's because it's all rubbish. There's no corruption. Refs are just shit.

 

 

I think we can all agree though that bigger teams, not just ManU, get decisions going their way playing home? Same at Anfield, Etihad, Emirates and OT... 

[Emotic]

Oof....

 

[Froggy]

3 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

I think we can all agree though that bigger teams, not just ManU, get decisions going their way playing home? Same at Anfield, Etihad, Emirates and OT... 

 

I think there's more of a spotlight on those decisions that's for sure. They're usually always televised, so more attention is brought to them.

[Anderson]

1 hour ago, Froggy said:

 

Since the introduction of VAR we absolutely do not receive preferential treatment and it's been debunked many, many times.  Last night was just a poor decision, one of many that will happen this season for all sides. 

 

There's not just one example by the way. Andy Carroll's scissor tackle on Eriksen last season? Not even a yellow card and injured Eriksen for months. At Old Trafford.

 

 

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Martinez's "penalty" against Sociedad where the ball actually bounced up from his leg and hit his arm which was completely tucked in. VAR looked at it and kept the decision. At Old Trafford.

 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

What about this clearly intentional handball from Juanmi, which they scored from? At Old Trafford.

 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

What about Casemiro's red for choking Will Hughes who was laughing and joking with him. Fair enough if you think that's a red, but what about Ayew who did the exact same thing to Fred in the exact same sequence? Also at Old Trafford.

 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

Casemiro was made an example of last season, but Lamela stamped on him and only got a yellow. Also at Old Trafford.

 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

 

This is only last season.  But people would have you believe that absolutely nothing goes against Man United at Old Trafford. People still hurt from the 90's like to think we have some sort of sway over referees which is utter nonsense. Everybody has decisions go for and against them. 

 

Thought this was all just a bit, but you've actually gone to the bother of pulling all these out.  Marvellous.  

[Froggy]

4 minutes ago, Anderson said:

 

Thought this was all just a bit, but you've actually gone to the bother of pulling all these out.  Marvellous.  

 

I've had these in the chamber for months.