Rod Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said: Because like Brighton, the culture and style of play is embedded throughout Ajax. Almost like the manager is a coach that needs to just make sure they continue along the same track. However at man u you come into a squad of players picked by the previous three of four managers who all had different ideas.... and then rinse and repeat But their ingenious plan was to employ Ragnick which would smooth into the introduction of Ten Haggs appointment. The whole two appointments (well definitely Ragnick) was pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, toon25 said: I can't place him as a comedy character... Thinks he's partridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) He’s definitely not handled the Sancho stuff well, his man management skills are awful. Edited October 3, 2023 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: It just repeats the cycle and Frankensteins the squad further. This is the absolute worst thing about changing managers all the time. Messes up the playing squad so badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 I remember Froggy saying the club had behaved appallingly towards De Gea, Im sure. I hadn’t seen Onana previously so had no idea what he was like but no one could have predicted he’d be this shit. Fundamentally he just isn’t a good enough goalkeeper but his cockiness has led to a bunch of extra errors too. He just doesn’t seem to do a lot of the basics of shot stopping Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, Rod said: But their ingenious plan was to employ Ragnick which would smooth into the introduction of Ten Haggs appointment. The whole two appointments (well definitely Ragnick) was pathetic. Didn't they bring in Rangnick to oversee the transfer department, then scrap that plan just because he had a shite run as Interim Head Coach? All seems bizarre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Rod said: I agree that the club are a basket case at the moment BUT didn't the Man Utd fans say he was the second coming because they beat little inadequate Newcastle United in the Carabao Cup Final? Manager of the season, much better than Howe etc etc. Whenever Howe was praised by someone after last season, Man United fans stepped in to preach about how much better Ten Hag was. Edited October 3, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 They brought in Rangnick then vetoed a bunch of his transfer suggestions didn’t they? Most of which went on to be extremely good players whose value only went up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Potter will be in there soon in another square-peg in round hole appointment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: He’s definitely not handled the Sancho stuff well, his man management skills are awful. He handled it perfectly. The only way anyone can suggest otherwise is if they're blissfully unaware of what happened. Sancho had chance after chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: He’s definitely not handled the Sancho stuff well, his man management skills are awful. As much as he’s probably been in the right the public spats with players like Sancho, Ronaldo, Maguire are corrosive to the squad buy in. Him and/or the club have showing they are willing to throw a player under the bus if it suits. Fraser was the closest we’ve had here but it was pretty much kept in house and just not talked about. Howe will demand a lot from them and possibly be quite harsh if they are slacking but the players know they aren’t going to get publicly slated by the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: Who is the reserve keeper these days? Bayinder. I know nowt about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Lets be honest last season if it weren't for rashfords crazy goalscoring patch ten hag wouldn't have had yous top 8 in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: Having a read of Red Cafe and it’s quite split on Ten Haag but they all seem to agree he shouldn’t be allowed any input on transfers. A little late for that now He's spent what.. ? 400 million on absolute dross like Antony and Onana. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, GeordieDazzler said: As much as he’s probably been in the right the public spats with players like Sancho, Ronaldo, Maguire are corrosive to the squad buy in. Him and/or the club have showing they are willing to throw a player under the bus if it suits. Fraser was the closest we’ve had here but it was pretty much kept in house and just not talked about. Howe will demand a lot from them and possibly be quite harsh if they are slacking but the players know they aren’t going to get publicly slated by the manager. Great Post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: Didn't they bring in Rangnick to oversee the transfer department, then scrap that plan just because he had a shite run as Interim Head Coach? All seems bizarre. Biggest mistake they made IMO. Part of the reason they put him as manager was so he could have an insight into all of the players. He was supposed to restructure things completely I believe and not just transfers. Gathered all of that info and presented the ideas of how to restructure things at the club and they binned him off based on results, when he wasn't even there to become manager. The decision makers behind the scenes are the real problem at the club I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Watching Man Utd implode is as joyous as finding a carrier bag full of jazz mags in a hedge when you were a youth, then getting home to see a note from your mam on the kitchen bench to say she’s gone looking for bargains at the community centre jumble sale and won’t be back for a couple of hours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Neville too busy at a David fucking Beckham premiere this evening to enjoy that result. Shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Didn't they bring in Rangnick to oversee the transfer department, then scrap that plan just because he had a shite run as Interim Head Coach? All seems bizarre. Yes and no. Rangnick took the Austria job. Was initially going to consult for us for a couple of days a month and then that was scrapped as it's utterly ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Froggy said: Yes and no. Rangnick took the Austria job. Was initially going to consult for us for a couple of days a month and then that was scrapped as it's utterly ridiculous. Wasnt the 'two days a month' role put forward after results started going tits up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Watching Man Utd implode is as joyous as finding a carrier bag full of jazz mags in a hedge when you were a youth, then getting home to see a note from your mam on the kitchen bench to say she’s gone looking for bargains at the community centre jumble sale and won’t be back for a couple of hours is that a Chaucer quote? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 The biggest red flag for Man United last season was their away record to anyone half decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Such a weird club, they have players that can win a match against any club on any given day but they don’t seem to have any interest in being consistent about it. Something rotten there.. the way they’ve handled significant player situations (Greenwood, Sancho) has been appalling, owners that have no sporting interest in the club, no direction, what kind of scouting do they have? You can see clear as day this will continue on and off, season after season. Change a manager, no difference.. ETH has been made to look a mug by his players. His aura of the work he did at Ajax in tatters, he’s been exposed there big time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, toon25 said: Wasnt the 'two days a month' role put forward after results started going tits up? Yeah, that whole idea came about later when the decision makers started second guessing things I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: You can see clear as day this will continue on and off, season after season. Change a manager, no difference.. Club is being sold next month. It's all good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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