bobbydazzla Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) You were fucking wank against Lyon and absolutely deserved to lose Edited May 2 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 4 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: You were fucking wank against Lyon and absolutely deserved to lose The only reason Lyon were even in the game was because of two Onana errors. They were deservedly beaten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Froggy said: The only reason Lyon were even in the game was because of two Onana errors. They were deservedly beaten. Only reason my aunty isn’t my uncle is because she hasn’t got any plums You were shite, don’t die on the Lyon hill Frogster Edited May 2 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 18 minutes ago, Froggy said: You're missing the point. I said we haven't deserved to lose since the Everton game with the exception of the game against Newcastle. I'm aware the results haven't been good. I'm not having a go at you either. Not sure where you've picked that up from. Just saying I am well aware the season has been poor, but there's no need to downplay competitions and very good opponents just because we've beaten them. It just shows the level of expectations at ManU nowadays. Scraping past ten man Lyon AT HOME, is seen as success. Your team is one the richest and biggest clubs in the world, who should get best players and coaches in. Seems like your club has been in a constant turmoil since SAF left, and everytime there is a coach who gets few wins on the bounce, there is this "next season will be ours" -stuff. The big problem is that your squad does not have the players Amorim need, and seems like you don't have the staff or money to fix it in a year or two. But the fans will always expect to be challenging at least for UCL places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 minute ago, KingArthur said: It just shows the level of expectations at ManU nowadays. Scraping past ten man Lyon AT HOME, is seen as success. Your team is one the richest and biggest clubs in the world, who should get best players and coaches in. Seems like your club has been in a constant turmoil since SAF left, and everytime there is a coach who gets few wins on the bounce, there is this "next season will be ours" -stuff. The big problem is that your squad does not have the players Amorim need, and seems like you don't have the staff or money to fix it in a year or two. But the fans will always expect to be challenging at least for UCL places. Your first sentence suggests the level of expectation at us is low as we're happy with beating Lyon, then your last sentence suggests the fans always expect to be challenging for UCL places. So which is it? The unrealistic expectations come from opposition fans, not us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 7 minutes ago, Froggy said: Your first sentence suggests the level of expectation at us is low as we're happy with beating Lyon, then your last sentence suggests the fans always expect to be challenging for UCL places. So which is it? The unrealistic expectations come from opposition fans, not us. The fans, like you, are saying that you have played well and deserved the win etc. But the fact is: it was 10 man Lyon, you were at home. Yea, getting through the tie is the thing, but you cannot seriously say you played well? If you think you played well, do you think your team is good, the money has been well spent and Amorim is doing good job? Neither of these are true I would say. And if Amorim is doing good work, what would be the expectations for next season? What do you expect? But you do understand when you spend the most/almost the most money to your team, expectations HAS to be high? It doesnt work like that you spend billions of pounds but the fans are ok to be 7th. Those expectations come from everywhere around football. Just like Chelsea, their fans cannot be content with winning UECL and ending up 7th in the league when they have spent a billion dollars on their team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 6 minutes ago, KingArthur said: The fans, like you, are saying that you have played well and deserved the win etc. But the fact is: it was 10 man Lyon, you were at home. Yea, getting through the tie is the thing, but you cannot seriously say you played well? If you think you played well, do you think your team is good, the money has been well spent and Amorim is doing good job? Neither of these are true I would say. I never said we played well though did I? I said we deserved to win. 10 man Lyon, 5 man Lyon, it doesn't matter. We won, and deserved to win. Lyon didn't do enough to beat us. I think the team has a lot of good players, but some poor ones. Money has been spent horrifically over the last few years, but I don't agree at all that it was spent poorly in the summer, which is an opinion a lot of people seem to have. De Ligt, Ugarte, Mazraoui and Zirkzee will play a big part in improving this team. The windows before that though? Absolute disaster. 13 minutes ago, KingArthur said: And if Amorim is doing good work, what would be the expectations for next season? What do you expect? I'm reserving judgement on Amorim. He came in November, and did not want to come mid-season but was given an ultimatum. He was open and honest right away, and has continued to be, and said that we would face an extremely difficult season. "The storm will come. We will be found out." That has ended up being the case, but he has said over time we will improve and get back to where we want to be. We'll give him the time that he deserves. There won't be expectation on him to start being a CL contender next season, but a huge improvement is the absolute minimum. Let's give him a chance instead of writing him off within 6 months. We all know this club was/is a shit show, so it's going to take time. 15 minutes ago, KingArthur said: But you do understand when you spend the most/almost the most money to your team, expectations HAS to be high? It doesnt work like that you spend billions of pounds but the fans are ok to be 7th. Those expectations come from everywhere around football. Just like Chelsea, their fans cannot be content with winning UECL and ending up 7th in the league when they have spent a billion dollars on their team. I understand this, but I don't see why the anger has to be directed towards a manager. Amorim didn't hand £1.2m a week to Casemiro, Sancho, Rashford and Mount. Amorim didn't sign Antony for £80m. I personally love Amorim's approach. Refreshingly honest, but extremely high standards for players. I believe at the very least, he can give us a side that dies for the badge. For the fans, removing the toxicity from the club is 100x more important than a trophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Anger is directed towards manager, because he cannot buy a whole new team. He has to find a way to get most out of your current players. That is what good managers do. Maybe next season he will improve them, I dont know. The core of the team will still be the same next season. And with money most likely being spent again loads next season (Cunha rumoured already), of course expectations has to be high. If you don't make it to UCL, your team loses money. UCL is what is expected from ManU. Hell, Nottingham, Newcastle and maybe Villa are going there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) Not sure why people are getting so wound up Man United won. You could tell they had the name on that trophy after the Lyon game and it has been proven countless times over the last few years that they are still capable of winning trophies despite how shit they have been due to the huge resources and wealth they have over pretty much everyone else barring Man City and Chelsea . The only annoying part about it is that it gets them back into the champions league . Edited May 2 by Geogaddi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 As irritating as it is, that comeback against Lyon was almost like their name was on the cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Is the level of competition in the europa league that poor that the final will be made up of Spurs v Man U Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 8 minutes ago, duo said: Is the level of competition in the europa league that poor that the final will be made up of Spurs v Man U As bad as they are look at the resources Man United and Spurs have compared to the other teams in the Europa. It's supposed to be a competition for smaller teams who don't have the resources to compete with the biggest clubs. it's turned into a farce this season as two clubs that are stinking out the domestic league they are in and should be embarrassed to be in the Europa when you look at the resources they have are both going to end up in the final . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 35 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: As bad as they are look at the resources Man United and Spurs have compared to the other teams in the Europa. It's supposed to be a competition for smaller teams who don't have the resources to compete with the biggest clubs. it's turned into a farce this season as two clubs that are stinking out the domestic league they are in and should be embarrassed to be in the Europa when you look at the resources they have are both going to end up in the final . No it's not. It's simply meant to be a 2nd tier competition for those clubs that don't finish in their, respective CL places. Annoying as our two lower/mid table clubs reaching the final is there was enough meat on the bone at the start of the EL for there to have been reasonably stiff opposition to Spuds and Manure. If you don't believe in 3rd placed, CL, failures dropping into the EL then this is what you asked for. I'm in that group and if anything was helping the clubs with greater resources the EL drop-in was it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Spurs supporting workmate not too confident this morning, 3 of their best players to come back and a plastic pitch to deal with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFCDoog Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) Definitely feels like that late Bodo goal could be a huge moment like, at 3 nil it feels over, but getting 1 means it's very much doable. Hoping Wolves do us a favor tonight, they've been in decent form to be fair, wouldn't rule out a draw. EDIT - in even better form than I realised to be fair, unbeaten in 8 of the last 10 games and have won their last 5 in a row. Edited May 2 by NUFCDoog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 4 minutes ago, NUFCDoog said: Definitely feels like that late Bodo goal could be a huge moment like, at 3 nil it feels over, but getting 1 means it's very much doable. Hoping Wolves do us a favor tonight, they've been in decent form to be fair, wouldn't rule out a draw. EDIT - in even better form than I realised to be fair, unbeaten in 8 of the last 10 games and have won their last 5 in a row. Looking forward to tonight's game. I think Wolves are capable of taking points off them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (Comfortable) Home win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Yeah i thought this was at Wolves. City win but fingers crossed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Been all Man City so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFCDoog Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Crazy amount of empty seats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Come on Wolves. Just get a points at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Are they protesting prices and turning up late again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Just now, NUFCDoog said: Crazy amount of empty seats They're protesting against the clubs new ticketing policy. (I think) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFCDoog Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Just now, Fak said: They're protesting against the clubs new ticketing policy. (I think) Ahh fair enough, fair play to them, obv they usually have a few but the amount empty tonight definitely stands out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Absolutely no one there behind the goal where the safe standing is, and huge gaps elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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