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24 minutes ago, Stifler said:

If that doesn’t happen, then Palace would likely be forced to concede their European position, which would result in Nottingham Forest being upgraded to a Europa League slot, and Brighton of all clubs being given the Conference League slot.

 

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7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

The amount of advantages given to pen takers is getting a bit daft now like. Who is this change even for?

You'd imagine its following on from the Julien Alvarez incident in the penalty shootout against Real Madrid a few months back. I think I tend to agree with you mind, that was such a rarity that changing a rule because of it seems silly. 

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28 minutes ago, 54 said:

You'd imagine its following on from the Julien Alvarez incident in the penalty shootout against Real Madrid a few months back. I think I tend to agree with you mind, that was such a rarity that changing a rule because of it seems silly. 

 

Less rare with VAR. It would've been imperceptible without it. It was barely perceptible with it.

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The whole point of the double touch rule is to stop players taking the ball on and dribbling with it towards goal. The accidental double touch has always been an unfortunate punishment for this, but ultimately a necessary evil I guess.

 

I really don't think a double touch penalty should mean it gets re-taken. However I would lean towards a rule that means it doesn't get ruled out if it's clearly all one movement/kick.

 

The Alvarez one was the case in point here. To the naked eye it was demonstrably no different to a clean hit and shouldn't have been ruled out IMO. It was particularly egregious in this case because it was in a shootout where the ball is immediately dead anyway, and there is actually no reason to have the double touch rule enforced in that context.

 

 

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You can't tell me that if Isak accidentally slipped on a crucial penalty in a cup final and touched it twice that there wouldn't be any complaints on here :lol:

 

It seems like common sense to me to update it?

 

It's not like they're allowing people to tee themselves up

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15 minutes ago, joeyt said:

I think it's fair enough if you accidentally slip and touch it twice you get to retake it

 

I don't really agree. Players can accidentally slip and skew it wide etc. I don't know why you'd give them a second bite of the cherry if they slip but are lucky enough to hit it twice by mistake in the process. That's just bailing out a fuck up.

 

It should just be that an element of common sense is applied that the penalty is legit if it is taken in all one obvious movement, whether they score or not, and not afford them another go just because they slipped in very specific context of a double hit.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, joeyt said:

You can't tell me that if Isak accidentally slipped on a crucial penalty in a cup final and touched it twice that there wouldn't be any complaints on here :lol:

 

It seems like common sense to me to update it?

 

It's not like they're allowing people to tee themselves up

 

Just as easy to put us all in a position where it doesn't benefit us. ie the opposite of Mitrovic a couple of years back. 

 

Just seems like another change that wasn't needed and no one asked for. 

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2 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

 

I don't really agree. Players can accidentally slip and skew it wide etc. I don't know why you'd give them a second bite of the cherry if they slip but are lucky enough to hit it twice by mistake in the process. That's just bailing out a fuck up.

 

It should just be that an element of common sense is applied that the penalty is legit if it is taken in all one obvious movement, whether they score or not, and not afford them another go just because they slipped in very specific context of a double hit.

 

 

 

 

What if the opposition have scuffed up the penalty run up in order to facilitate a slip?

 

Would you have let Mitro retake the penalty he scored against us that then got disallowed?

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1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Just as easy to put us all in a position where it doesn't benefit us. ie the opposite of Mitrovic a couple of years back. 

 

Just seems like another change that wasn't needed and no one asked for. 

 

Mitro should have been allowed a retake if i was deciding the rules

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