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madras

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  On 09/02/2024 at 16:55, bobbydazzla said:


You try to explaining that to a gang of little Geordie radgies playing 7 a side with a caser ball on waste ground with jumpers for goalposts in Thatchers Britain

 

Rush keeper - the kid in goal can play outfield and it’s agreed he won’t get paggered for doing it by either his own team or the opposition 

 

Fog man back - anyone can be keeper, but only the 1st defender to reach the goalmouth can handle the ball without getting paggered by the opposition 

 

Any other interpretations are sheer lunacy 

 

 

 

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Thatchers bloody Britain. Fog man back and rush keeper were the same thing as far back as Heath's Britain

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  On 09/02/2024 at 15:40, Exiled in Texas said:

Being pedantic…

 

goalies are not restricted from playing out /up field. They are just the only ones permitted to use their hands which is why their shirt is a different color. But they can go anywhere on the field they want.

 

So by definition then rush-goalies has to be first-man-back. Else it’s just the keeper playing up/back

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That's why I so confidently stated rush in the first place. There was a Wiki article I found https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_goalie that seems to infer its unsurprisingly usually to even up teams with uneven numbers up but I still don't understand what extra rule it's actually implementing considering a 'keeper can venture upfield if they really wanted to anyway.

 

Granted I'm a southerner here so I'm fighting a losing battle if no one up north deemed rush goalies the same as me. :lol:

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Superior Acuña

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  On 08/02/2024 at 22:00, TheBrownBottle said:

They were both the same.  A goalie can play outfield normally.

 

One rule we did sometimes play is that any ‘fog man back’ or ‘rush goalie’ wasn’t  allowed to cross halfway in normal play.  So effectively a few players could be ‘it’ if they’re back first, but those players had to stay in their own half 

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Rush and fog man were not the same, not for us anyway.

 

As others said Rush is an assigned keeper that can come out. Yes, that's what any keeper can do in pros - but 'rush' was significant because as a kid you could also have 'stick' keepers, where the keeper was not allowed to come out. E.g. against a group of older lads that dominate the game you might want them to have stick, because a rush keeper would help dominate their attack.

 

 

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Rush = assigned keeper who can come out the area (often played)

Stick = assigned keeper who can’t come the area (often played)
Spot = deepest player only can use their hands (rarely played)

 

Rush keeper only usually used if it was uneven teams but often with the additional rule you’d have to score from close to the goal and not just punts upfield. 

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Superior Acuña

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  On 10/02/2024 at 01:12, Disco said:

Rush = assigned keeper who can come out the area (often played)

Stick = assigned keeper who can’t come the area (often played)
Spot = deepest player only can use their hands (rarely played)

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Reckon we did Stick, Rush or Any Man Save a lot. We did Fog Man Back occasionally but preferred Any Man Save since it's just simpler than determining who is furthest back in a crowded box - no VAR lines necessary.

 

Nee blasties could either be because the ball would go far away, but also cos it was a reluctant keeper.   

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  On 10/02/2024 at 01:15, Superior Acuña said:

 

Reckon we did Stick, Rush or Any Man Save a lot. We did Fog Man Back occasionally but preferred Any Man Save since it's just simpler than determining who is furthest back in a crowded box - no VAR lines necessary.

 

Nee blasties could either be because the ball would go far away, but also cos it was a reluctant keeper.   

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Deepest was interchangeable every attack but I’m wondering if we also hybrid versioned it so first player to use their hands meant no one else could?

 

Nee blasties was definitely a time thing for us. 
 

Next up headers and vols, followed by whatever variant of spot, bums you played :lol:

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  On 09/02/2024 at 23:05, Disco said:

Got to say, as we weren’t allowed to play with a proper ball, I absolutely fucking loved playing on the yard with a tenniser when I was youngun. 

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Aye, in playtime we'd have to play with a size three borderline windshifter "incase someone got hurt". One kid from Colombia came in year two. He was exceptionally good. Knew he'd become a footballer and he did! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ángelo_Balanta

 

We had a one on one once. Absolutely destroyed me. Can just remember being on the floor and him rounding the keeper :lol: 

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  On 10/02/2024 at 07:23, Nucasol said:

Agree with his point on the voting - think it was 9 of the 20 clubs who voted for FFP aren’t even in the PL now.

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Aye.  Why do Luton get to vote and the likes of Leeds, Leicester and the mackems don't?

 

Even outside of this you could make a point that as previous winners, Blackburn and Leicester get a vote regardless of where they currently are in the league.

 

 

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  On 10/02/2024 at 08:00, Sima said:


Aye.  Why do Luton get to vote and the likes of Leeds, Leicester and the mackems don't?

 

Even outside of this you could make a point that as previous winners, Blackburn and Leicester get a vote regardless of where they currently are in the league.

 

 

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West Brom

Swansea

Norwich

Southampton

QPR

Sunderland

Reading

Wigan

Stoke
 

All these clubs got a say on it. Nice we’re living with the ramifications of Wigan and Reading’s choices, clubs who have had 39 points deducted between them since FFP came in.

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