Kid Icarus Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, LionOfGosforth said: Ake has played quite a bit this season, probably deserves his place. VVD has been crap all season but has the history to back up his inclusion. De Ligt is shite, Botman should be in ahead of him, it's just daft and probably mainly because he plays for Juventus. Botman may lack experience but is one of the most in-form CBs in one of the toughest leagues, no brainer he should be there. Definitely not saying Botman shouldn't be in there, just saying Ake has been much more than just a last 5 player for Man City. He plays a fair bit and he's quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Definitely not saying Botman shouldn't be in there, just saying Ake has been much more than just a last 5 player for Man City. He plays a fair bit and he's quality. I agreed with that part, I was just saying De Ligt is poor and Botman easily should be in there over him. Think we're mainly arguing a similar point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Not saying Ake’s bad but he doesn’t have the X factor I believe Botman does. Astounding he hasn’t been called up. League champion ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I'm sure Senegal are tough and physical to play against and most international teams have advanced a lot tactically in recent years but this Netherlands team...just no fluidity at all. FDJ is a classy player but there's not much else there. Shame, they used to be one of my favorite international teams to watch. Loved the Euro 88 team and also the Euro 2000 team with Seedorf, Davids, Overmars and Kluivert was pure class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 This Dutch team might not be competing with the 2010 team in terms of how dirty it is, but it's running it close for how boring it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 The great Dutch sides over the years have often had weak spots in defence. Talent pool much smaller than than you would think and have probably historically punched above their weight. Now they've got a pool of strong defenders but extremely limited forwards. Packing them all into one team and unsurprisingly it's dreadful to watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) Surely Guus Til can get in this team. Anytime I watch PSV or Feyenoord, he stands out massive. Edited November 21, 2022 by Astroblack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said: I'm sure Senegal are tough and physical to play against and most international teams have advanced a lot tactically in recent years but this Netherlands team...just no fluidity at all. FDJ is a classy player but there's not much else there. Shame, they used to be one of my favorite international teams to watch. Loved the Euro 88 team and also the Euro 2000 team with Seedorf, Davids, Overmars and Kluivert was pure class. I really liked their 1998 WC team with Van Der Sar and Bergkamp also. They were a team I loved watching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 What an atrocious game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said: What an atrocious game. Slightly worse than watching Dundee United against Hibs or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Bit of manhandling by De Jong there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Warthog Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Christ this is shit... first footie I've seen today and this is the drivel that gets beefed up?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Wouldn’t be surprised if this ends up being the worst game of this World Cup. The level has been ridiculously low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 No flow or quality to this at all and no sign of anything changing. Senegal look content with a stalemate, Netherlands don't have the wit or pace to break them down. Crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Probably better for Botman’s development to not play in this honking side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Not to worry, Davy Klaassen and Koopmeiners will elevate this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 VVD just isn't the same player, don't know what his issue is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Qatar will beat these two based on this. Deary me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 This is like watching Wimbledon vs Coventry in 1987 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Warthog Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 At fucking last... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 This is utter shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Would a Senegal late winner be good for us or would it risk putting the Netherlands into our side of the tree if we were to finish top of our group? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Looks like may get all 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Frenkie has been the best player on the pitch by a mile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, Stifler said: Would a Senegal late winner be good for us or would it risk putting the Netherlands into our side of the tree if we were to finish top of our group? Never fucking mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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