The Prophet Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Conjo said: Not sure if it's more appropriate to respond with a or a It's absolutely lifting. The club made it clear that FFP is an issue until our commercial revenue increase. They've also indirectly said that none of our first choice targets were available. Still that's not good enough for the FM-merchants who need us to qualify for the Champions League this season, who love to tediously trott it out every single week. Edited March 4, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 minute ago, ohmelads said: I'd say pick one and explain. Because it's such an over used and boring statement I don't know whether to laugh or cringe. We were the 5th highest spenders in January which based on everything we hear from the club in terms of FFP the club tried to push on as much as possible within the means they can operate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 There's still a lot left to play for, like. 1 or 2 results and then everything shifts again. With some tweaks, we can push on again as we still do a lot well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) The fred is called TopFourometer. We failed to strenghten the squad in January and we've won 1 in 8. People are asking questions. It's not that shocking, is it? Edited March 4, 2023 by The Butcher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Man U win tomorrow and we're in a stronger position than we could have expected going into this weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 minute ago, The Butcher said: The fred is called TopFourometer. We failed to strenghten the squad in January and we've won 1 in 8. People are aking questions. It's not that shocking, is it? I don't see many questions asked, but a lot of statements as if they were facts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Prophet said: It's absolutely lifting. The club made it clear that FFP is an issue until our commercial revenue increase. They've also indirectly said that none of our first choice targets were available. Still that's not good enough for the FM-merchants who need us to qualify for the Champions League this season, who love to tediously trott it out every single week. Aye, I'm as disappointed as anyone, but the message doesn't seem to have registered with some folk. I'm sure we'd love nothing better than to spend £80m on a 30 yr old world class player or two, but FFP has been designed specifically to stop us doing that. City and Chelsea could do that 10 years ago, those days are gone now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Conjo said: I don't see many questions asked, but a lot of statements as if they were facts. It's a forum. That's how it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 The fact that top 4 is even in the equation is mind boggling. The fact that some of our "fans" would prefer to look at a few recent results rather than the bigger picture, is totally unsurprising. We've lost 3 games all season and are 20 points ahead of where we were last season. I, for one, am over the fucking moon at our progress. We will get a second wind this season and the sooner it happens the better our final league position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Butcher said: The fred is called TopFourometer. We failed to strenghten the squad in January and we've won 1 in 8. People are aking questions. It's not that shocking, is it? We've undoubtedly hit a rough patch stemming from poor form in front of goal. Would a better January have helped that? I don't know, none of us do. But the same posters making the same conjecture based argument every week, despite the club giving reasonable explanations is beyond tedious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Conjo said: Because it's such an over used and boring statement I don't know whether to laugh or cringe. We were the 5th highest spenders in January which based on everything we hear from the club in terms of FFP the club tried to push on as much as possible within the means they can operate. Your opinion's boring as well. Some agree with you, and some don't. Caveats were already said so boring to repeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, ohmelads said: Your opinion's boring as well. Some agree with you, and some don't. Caveats were already said so boring to repeat. Not worried, if we lose or draw next week the same people will rush to this forum to tell everyone how we should have spunked an extra 100m to go for a CL spot. Edited March 4, 2023 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, STM said: The fact that top 4 is even in the equation is mind boggling. The fact that some of our "fans" would prefer to look at a few recent results rather than the bigger picture, is totally unsurprising. We've lost 3 games all season and are 20 points ahead of where we were last season. I, for one, am over the fucking moon at our progress. We will get a second wind this season and the sooner it happens the better our final league position. We are having an incredible season, but there is no guarantee we will get a second wind and suddenly find form again. Top 7 would still be incredible, anything less would be hugely disappointing imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Your "no guarantee January would have made a difference" schtick is getting a bit daft now man. We obviously need to improve half of our squad and doing so (through productive transfer windows) will objectively make us better, and results easier to obtain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, The Prophet said: It's absolutely lifting. The club made it clear that FFP is an issue until our commercial revenue increase. They've also indirectly said that none of our first choice targets were available. Still that's not good enough for the FM-merchants who need us to qualify for the Champions League this season, who love to tediously trott it out every single week. Lifting? How about less straw man, less hysteria and more discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, ohmelads said: Your opinion's boring as well. Some agree with you, and some don't. Caveats were already said so boring to repeat. What I wrote wasn't an opinion. One statement was a fact, the other was based on what Howe, Staveley & journalists have been telling us for a long time now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 We were never going to go through the whole season in the form we showed first half of the season. This could be a blip, or it could be we are just running out of steam with a small squad. But while we are still in there with a very realistic chance of getting top 4 I don't see any reason to throw in the towel. A couple of wins and we could be back in CL positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Change to top eightometer please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Leave it at TopFourometer please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 minute ago, TRon said: We were never going to go through the whole season in the form we showed first half of the season. This could be a blip, or it could be we are just running out of steam with a small squad. But while we are still in there with a very realistic chance of getting top 4 I don't see any reason to throw in the towel. A couple of wins and we could be back in CL positions. Absolutely. We played well today, and we were bloody unlucky. Questions about Howe's selections are fair, but he has earned that trust. It's certainly fair in my view to say the window was a missed opportunity, with the caveat that we will never know the finances of any club and can't trust public statements. It's a missed opportunity because Chelsea and Liverpool won't leave the door open next season. There will be disagreement over whether we should gamble while that door is open, or regret not taking that chance. There's no right or wrong answer to that, but many feel the squad weakened overall when it could've strengthened for the run-in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: Change to top eightometer please. We already have a top7ometer. Head over there if you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, STM said: We already have a top7ometer. Head over there if you like. I said eight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Change it to bottom10ometer. Its all over. It all means nothing anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 To be very clear, we could absolutely spend more money than we did, but the RISK is the lack of commercial deals to offset the spend and keep us “in line” with FFP in the tests that will be performed per due course. Some clubs speculate and spend before the deals are inked banking on the fact they’ll find ways to balance books when needed. We don’t. And that’s fine. Is it the right move? Up for debate. Our squad deficiencies are showing right now and when we decided to spend 40m on a winger, we did so on a long term target. Awesome stuff, but he’s clearly one for the future and it’s not like we spent that on Gakpo or Harvey Barnes. It’s not just about potentially getting to CL anymore, as it stands we’re risking top 7. Get 6 points from the next 2 and it’ll be far more calming but right now we’re not firing in goals. Hell as of the last few matches we aren’t even getting the ball on fucking target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 33 minutes ago, The Butcher said: The fred is called TopFourometer. We failed to strenghten the squad in January and we've won 1 in 8. People are asking questions. It's not that shocking, is it? You only fail if you try and I'm not convinced the club were willing to deviate from their long term strategy/plans just to secure 4th this season. Letting 2 players leave without replacements as it was too good an opportunity to miss - forest desperate and no guarantee of summer exits for them otherwise - shows they're willing to sacrifice in the short term to benefit the long. Fans have a right to be disappointed I guess, but that's not really the clubs priority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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