Superior Acuña Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: 2nd (home), 17th (away), 6th (home), 19th (home), 11th (away). A team vying for 3rd/4th not getting 7 points from that is a collapse. A good team in good form would look to get 7-10 points from that. 6 or less is a collapse. I don't think a string of mediocre form is a 'collapse'. You've got a 1 point margin there between 'good form' and 'collapse'. Edited May 17, 2023 by Superior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said: I don't think a string of mediocre form is a 'collapse'. You've got a 1 point margin there between 'good form' and 'collapse'. 7 is the minimum of acceptable form to me. 6 points in 5 games is bottom half form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Does anyone know if an extra place is allocated in the CL if City win the league and champions league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, mighty__mag said: Does anyone know if an extra place is allocated in the CL if City win the league and champions league? I do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Does anyone know if an extra place is allocated in the CL if City win the league and champions league? No it's not. There never has been for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: Does anyone know if an extra place is allocated in the CL if City win the league and champions league? Nope, no extra place so if you are wanting Inter to win you can continue with that Next season though, if English clubs to do well then there should be an extra spot for the CL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just found this, I didn't actually know winning the Europa League gets you in the CL the following season. How 5 English teams can make Champions League Although it is unlikely, there are two ways that a maximum five English teams can qualify for the Champions League. The first instance is when a team that finishes outside the top four in the league wins the Champions League. For example, if Chelsea had won Europe's elite trophy in 2022/23 while finishing in their current league position, they would be the fifth team in the Champions League alongside the clubs which finish in the top four. The other possible way for five English teams to make the Champions League is for a club outside the top four wins the Europa League. Winning the Europa League grants automatic qualification for the Champions League group stage in the following season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Look at tonight as a semi-final and Monday as the final (should we win tonight). Every time the League Cup draw was done and we realised it was at home we were over the moon. These 2 should be no different. Actually think it would make qualifying 100x better the fact that we have the chance to do it this way - at home, under the lights with the pressure on a little. In my humble opinion I'd much rather do it this way than cantering to it (despite my constant worries in this very thread ). Naturally we all wanted it done asap so we could all relax but doing it this way with Liverpool breathing down our necks would be amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Honestly if you said to me right now, you get top 4 but you can choose how you get it with option A being we win tonight then Aston Villa beat Liverpool, or option B being you win tonight, Liverpool win, then you win on Monday, I’d take option A. I just want us qualified for it, and if we do it, I want it done as soon as possible. Last week between the Arsenal game and the Leeds game was a long week, this week has been long, and a wait between Monday and Sunday would be just as long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadtillten Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Tonight will be a make or break night with the Toon needing 3 points to start sealing Champions League football for next season. The last few matches have been a bit disappointing. Since the Sean Longstaff injury Newcastle seem to be playing at a reduced momentum. They have haven't been pressing as hard when out of possession. The opposing team s seem to be getting more crosses in where as before they were blocked. We need Shaen back as he seems to be the pace setter for the Toon. Whatever happens with being the best supporters in the world. Through thick and thin we shall be there behind them ! HOWAY THE LADS !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Why did we get rid of the 100 post limit on people starting new threads again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Rich said: Why did we get rid of the 100 post limit on people starting new threads again? Worst decision ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Rich said: Why did we get rid of the 100 post limit on people starting new threads again? Aye, you'd get idiots starting threads about Anthony Gordon and Scott McTominay. Rookies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Just now, Jack27 said: Aye, you'd get idiots starting threads about Anthony Gordon and Scott McTominay. Rookies. You nearly single-handedly brought it back tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Just now, Rich said: You nearly single-handedly brought it back tbf. Why did you get rid of it? Bring it back FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Just now, Skeletor said: Why did you get rid of it? Bring it back FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rich said: You nearly single-handedly brought it back tbf. You should see what I have planned for this summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jack27 said: You should see what I have planned for this summer Disappointed there’s no Joao Felix thread yet tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Deadtillten said: Tonight will be a make or break night with the Toon needing 3 points to start sealing Champions League football for next season. The last few matches have been a bit disappointing. Since the Sean Longstaff injury Newcastle seem to be playing at a reduced momentum. They have haven't been pressing as hard when out of possession. The opposing team s seem to be getting more crosses in where as before they were blocked. We need Shaen back as he seems to be the pace setter for the Toon. Whatever happens with being the best supporters in the world. Through thick and thin we shall be there behind them ! HOWAY THE LADS !!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is factually incorrect. And not the mindset we need. It's not make or break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Heard both Talksport and Sky report that we have to win or top four is out of our hands. Poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Winning is important as it puts Brighton out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 While winning isn't absolutely essential tonight in terms of CL, I would say it IS essential from a momentum and mentality point of view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: While winning isn't absolutely essential tonight in terms of CL, I would say it IS essential from a momentum and mentality point of view. It would be amazing, but I can see us losing tonight and still beating Leicester and Chelsea. People always underestimate the importance of fixture strength in football. We talk a lot about form and momentum when sometimes it’s just easier games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude20 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 I have just noticed how according to the poll of this thread only 3% thought we would make it to top four. 97% of you didn’t believe it at the beginning of the season. This is just a reminder of how we have been overachieving anyways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: It would be amazing, but I can see us losing tonight and still beating Leicester and Chelsea. People always underestimate the importance of fixture strength in football. We talk a lot about form and momentum when sometimes it’s just easier games. "There are no easy games" (but we know some are much easier ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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