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The Europeometer™ (2024/25) - NUFC Qualify for Conference League (at least)


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1 hour ago, timnufc22 said:

I simply cannot see Villa not winning their remaining games, bar Bournemouth away, which isn’t exactly a guaranteed loss either. 

 

1 hour ago, t00nt00n313 said:

 

Whilst I agree that villa are on form and definitely could win all their games, all it takes is one bad day at the office or a slip up for a draw. 

 

Winning four on the bounce isn't easy. It doesn't really happen much at all - Villa have managed 5x but their next best run was 3x in August/September. Chelsea won 5x in Nov/Dec and their next best is also 3x in September. Villa have already drawn with Bournemouth, lost to Spurs and drawn with Man Utd this season - every chance they drop points.

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I think with Howe preparing the team in the week ahead for Chelsea and in the dugout then I'd be confident of beating them quite comfortably 

 

without Howe I'm really not so sure, also Chelsea have so much individual quality they can be unpredictable, likr if Neto and Palmer are up for it they can really trouble us 

 

also Liverpool be hungover from winning the league and absolutely nothing to play for, am certain Chelsea will beat them 

 

they're also the jammiest club ever so I expect them to somehow get in the CL despite being shite for most of the season 

 

 

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It's so hard to predict who will end up in the CL places. No game is a guaranteed win for any team, even a terrible Southampton team could pull out a wonder win out of nowhere, that's the beauty of football. I've studied all the teams involved and there is room for all teams to trip up. 

 

With no European football we really should have cemented our place by now,but that's not the Newcastle way. 

 

It'll probably go down to the last day of the season with 3/4 teams chasing 2/3 places. 

 

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4 hours ago, ponsaelius said:

 

That's not a exactly right though, because 4/5 could have finished on lower totals and still got 5th. 60, 66, 59, 63, 64 was the actual required totals.

 

That puts the median required total a bit lower. 

 

However I'd say you are probably correct - I think the numbers of teams involved will push it to a higher overall total than usually expected. As is the fact that 5th is a CL place - this hasn't been the case previously.

 

 

 

 

Aye, if you think 26-27 points would probably keep 17th safe this season, it's natural the rest of the league's average points tally will be higher per position. Every other team is tracking for over a point per game at least when normally 35-36 points might be enough. 

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2 hours ago, Keegans Export said:

 

 

Winning four on the bounce isn't easy. It doesn't really happen much at all - Villa have managed 5x but their next best run was 3x in August/September. Chelsea won 5x in Nov/Dec and their next best is also 3x in September. Villa have already drawn with Bournemouth, lost to Spurs and drawn with Man Utd this season - every chance they drop points.

 

Nightmares from Chelsea winning the last 5 games last season..

 

 

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2 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

That estimate for 5th is creeping up. It was 66/67 points a couple weeks ago.

 

A significant factor for this (apart from the free wins vs bottom 3) must be how these 5 teams are the only ones that has anything to play for, and how it has been like this for a while. A small exception is the fight for 8th, which atleast gives us some hope for if we have to rely on Fulham and Bournemouth.. I think we are in a good position, but it might happen.

 

 

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Can't see Chelsea beating us, forest and Liverpool.Villas last 4 games aren't bankers as Man u,  Fulham, Spurs capable of one off good wins. Man City have it easier and Forest have couple difficult against Brentford and Chelsea.

 

I can see us beating Ipswich, Everton last game and probably Brighton or Chelsea.

 

Last game we are always bang up for it and if anything to play for we will slaughter Everton and I also think the team will know they need a top performance and win against Chelsea. Arsenal will beat us this time, need one win out of 4 against us this season

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4 hours ago, Ginola14 said:

I think with Howe preparing the team in the week ahead for Chelsea and in the dugout then I'd be confident of beating them quite comfortably 

 

without Howe I'm really not so sure, also Chelsea have so much individual quality they can be unpredictable, likr if Neto and Palmer are up for it they can really trouble us 

 

also Liverpool be hungover from winning the league and absolutely nothing to play for, am certain Chelsea will beat them 

 

they're also the jammiest club ever so I expect them to somehow get in the CL despite being shite for most of the season 

 

 

I don’t know if anyone agrees but I think Chelsea are absolutely hopeless and we’re going to beat them fairly comfortably 

 

 

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If we’d all been presented with the current situation and how we sit in the table with the points and games to go at the start of the season we’d have all very happily taken that especially considering we’re coming off a cup win too. 2 points ahead of Chelsea and Villa with a game in hand and better goal difference than Villa and still to play Chelsea at home and also going into on paper a very winnable game v Ipswich at home this weekend. 
 

Let’s just put Ipswich away and then move into next weekend where there’s no doubt going to be a shake up looking at the fixtures. 

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33 minutes ago, The Fountain said:

If we were 2 points behind Villa with a much worse goal difference having played a game more and Villa's game in hand was against Ipswich I'd be worried.

 

Quite sure the general consensus would be that it's over and the FA Cup is far more important anyway.

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2 hours ago, BermyToon said:

Does the FA Cup winner get Europa League? And if the FA Cup winner finishes in the top 6, does 7th place get Europa League also?

That's correct

 

So later this evening we could have Europa League pretty much confirmed as a minimum (need Palace to lose to Villa for this)

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53 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

That's correct

 

So later this evening we could have Europa League pretty much confirmed as a minimum (need Palace to lose to Villa for this)

What if villa finish 7th?

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1 hour ago, The Fountain said:

No, 8th will be conference.

Well, yes, Conference goes to 8th. 
 

But the effect of Villa winning the cup and finishing 6th or 7th, is that there’s an additional European place in terms of league position. 
 

Although if the original question was solely related to us, it’s irrelevant, with us already having Conference in the bag.

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