The Europeometer™ (2024/25)

[Yorkie]

Despite our away form it's not inconceivable that we go to Brentford and win. They've been ropey this season and we have won games on the road. 

 

It's a really big game, like. Whether you've taken an interest in the Conference League or not, there's no meaningful argument to suggest it would be better to be out of it than in it. Even if you think we'd benefit from the free midweeks, it would be more beneficial to actually become further accustomed to that practice; meanwhile Villa have proven that it needn't be overly burdensome. 

[AngelofTheFourth]

We need some sort of europe as the club need to properly learn how to juggle the league and European football. If we can't do it with the ECL than we have no chance doing it with the UCL.

[AngelofTheFourth]

9 hours ago, Ronaldo said:

I’m not sure re. 2nd paragraph. Isak, Bruno can’t be happy at a club finishing 7th / 8th. Sorry to be so negative. 

 

They may not be be happy but the reality is there's only 2/3 teams rn that you can guarantee that you aren't going to finish 7/8. Only city have consistently been in the top 4 for the past 10 years. It's even more difficult now that we pretty much have 8 teams who can realistically can get UCL. Which means 7/8 finishes are now going to be likely as we can't yet do man city level of spending. 

[Nucasol]

Europe again, ole ole ole.

 

Concourse “Mags, Bags & Slags” crew shooting their load early again.

[Cronky]

It looks like we may miss out altogether now. The team has a patched up look about it and I think we'll struggle at Brentford.

 

The only thing that would bother me about missing out on the Europa League or Conference would be the possibility that it might deter some players from staying or coming. However, I do wonder how big a consideration these competitions are for most top players. The Champions League is a different matter of course. 

 

The toll that the extra fixtures and travelling take on players is there for all to see, and I'm not sure if, in their heart of hearts, managers and players are all that keen on participating in it, no matter what they might say for the cameras.

[Ikon]

Bird nest FC won’t lose against Bournemouth unfortunately. I’m not even confident about us beating Brentford. More difficult game than ManU in many some ways. Mentally at least. 

 

 

Edited May 16 by Ikon

[Coffee_Johnny]

11 hours ago, OhSholaAmeobi said:

Job's fucked
Chelsea have a team full of kids by the way, Madueke was still raw and not first choice for PSV, Mudryk had 20 good games in Ukrainian league. Defence is made up of average defenders that are never going to get a game for France.
Let's not pretend the billion makes them world beaters, we should be ahead of them

Not sure we should be ahead of them. Played three times, won one, lost two (well a draw really). They’ve done phenomenally well recently and deserve to be where they are. Plus they consistently have a strong bench.  Peppered with players we couldn’t afford. 

[Stifler]

18 minutes ago, Cronky said:

It looks like we may miss out altogether now. The team has a patched up look about it and I think we'll struggle at Brentford.

 

The only thing that would bother me about missing out on the Europa League or Conference would be the possibility that it might deter some players from staying or coming. However, I do wonder how big a consideration these competitions are for most top players. The Champions League is a different matter of course. 

 

The toll that the extra fixtures and travelling take on players is there for all to see, and I'm not sure if, in their heart of hearts, managers and players are all that keen on participating in it, no matter what they might say for the cameras.

I don’t think it does. We are more than capable of going to Brentford and winning against a team who have not really performed to their expectations this season, and will be in holiday mode. Players like Toney and others who will have offers in the summer will not want to pick up injuries.

On top of this, a Brighton team could also get something from Man Utd if we need it.

 

In regards to the FA Cup, Man City will be shit hot favourites, and if they even get out of 2nd gear, Man Utd won’t stand a chance. In a one off game they always have a chance of winning, but you probably wouldn’t bet on it.

[Coffee_Johnny]

21 minutes ago, Cronky said:

It looks like we may miss out altogether now. The team has a patched up look about it and I think we'll struggle at Brentford.

 

The only thing that would bother me about missing out on the Europa League or Conference would be the possibility that it might deter some players from staying or coming. However, I do wonder how big a consideration these competitions are for most top players. The Champions League is a different matter of course. 

 

The toll that the extra fixtures and travelling take on players is there for all to see, and I'm not sure if, in their heart of hearts, managers and players are all that keen on participating in it, no matter what they might say for the cameras.

I am concerned that the expected revenue from ECL, may be needed to balance books for purchases. Not certain it’s the case but would be a set back to further progression in the short term at least. 

[Fezzle]

Fuck me we might as well pull down the shutters and close the club down the way some people go on here. Win and we probably get into Europe barring a City meltdown which is a fantastic result after all the shit of this season. ECL income will still be worth upwards of £20m should we win it(gate receipts/prize money) plus valuable coefficient points for when we get higher up. Villa doubled our points in this competition this season and games in random European cities should always be welcomed by fans. So many advantages if we get in. All over this place i see people resigned to losing out already ffs

[Fezzle]

Might be a dumb question as the site i was reading wasnt totally clear. Says we enter at final quaifying round, so is that 3rd Qualifying Round or the Playoffs? Just could affect our plans regarding Sela cup the weekend of the former with a game the Thursday before not to mention any other pre season games

[Groundhog63]

2 hours ago, Nucasol said:

Europe again, ole ole ole.

 

Concourse “Mags, Bags & Slags” crew shooting their load early again.

 

I know one of the mags, bags & slags brethren ??

[Sibierski]

1 hour ago, Cronky said:

It looks like we may miss out altogether now. The team has a patched up look about it and I think we'll struggle at Brentford.

 

The only thing that would bother me about missing out on the Europa League or Conference would be the possibility that it might deter some players from staying or coming. However, I do wonder how big a consideration these competitions are for most top players. The Champions League is a different matter of course. 

 

The toll that the extra fixtures and travelling take on players is there for all to see, and I'm not sure if, in their heart of hearts, managers and players are all that keen on participating in it, no matter what they might say for the cameras.

For me, more competitions involved, more chance of winning silverware.

 

Would be delighted with conference league, also helps our club coefficient for future years. 

[Sibierski]

4 minutes ago, Fezzle said:

Might be a dumb question as the site i was reading wasnt totally clear. Says we enter at final quaifying round, so is that 3rd Qualifying Round or the Playoffs? Just could affect our plans regarding Sela cup the weekend of the former with a game the Thursday before not to mention any other pre season games

Start in play off round, which unsure what the date is but prem season is started by that game is played.

[Fezzle]

1 minute ago, Sibierski said:

Start in play off round, which unsure what the date is but prem season is started by that game is played.

That was my assumption despite the daft wording. Its 22nd/29th August

[Vaj]

45 minutes ago, Fezzle said:

That was my assumption despite the daft wording. Its 22nd/29th August

The second leg would be the perfect game to get Tonali back in to starting line up then.

[Fezzle]

1 minute ago, Vaj said:

The second leg would be the perfect game to get Tonali back in to starting line up then.

I thought that, if its at home id imagine a cameo was guaranteed

[BermyToon]

Have a sinking feeling that we will finish top 8 in the league just like we did for the League and the FA Cup.

 

Would love to make it to the ECL, but not feeling too confident about Brentford.

 

 

Edited May 16 by BermyToon

[Palestoon]

I'm willing to bet we end up 7th regardless of our performance on Sunday.

 

Don't see Manu getting anything at Brighton. Will be saving themselves for the FA Cup final. Can imagine they will prefer a scenario of Win the FA cup, and get europa league.

 

Or lose and and have a fresh rebuild next season with no distractions. Don't think Europa conference would be a competition they'd have any interest being involved in.

 

Regardless hope we focus on getting a win, and hope chelsea have a slip. But would be happy with any kind of Europe next season

[Chicken Dancer]

Got a rotten feeling we will both lose Sunday (us & Man Utd) and them jammy bastards will do a Wigan to Man City in the final  

[Aiston]

7 hours ago, Fezzle said:

Fuck me we might as well pull down the shutters and close the club down the way some people go on here. Win and we probably get into Europe barring a City meltdown which is a fantastic result after all the shit of this season. ECL income will still be worth upwards of £20m should we win it(gate receipts/prize money) plus valuable coefficient points for when we get higher up. Villa doubled our points in this competition this season and games in random European cities should always be welcomed by fans. So many advantages if we get in. All over this place i see people resigned to losing out already ffs

 

Think people are just frustrated that we had it in our own hands and now need to bank on another team to do us a favour (while we need to equal Man United's result on Sunday now), even though Man United winning the FA Cup is highly unlikely.

 

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We should be wanting any sort of European football, bare minimum it helps Howe get more experience and to improve on how to manage the squad with European football.

[Unlucky Luque]

I want Europe, no matter the competition. Crazy places, weird teams, seeing more youngsters getting a chance, and loads more games to watch on TV.

The Intertoto -> UEFA run was class.

[brummie]

2 hours ago, Unlucky Luque said:

I want Europe, no matter the competition. Crazy places, weird teams, seeing more youngsters getting a chance, and loads more games to watch on TV.

The Intertoto -> UEFA run was class.

 

Also more European experience for the squad.

 

I loved our Conference run. I know a few who went to all the aways and they all to a man absolutely loved it. 

 

It is fucking miles better than not playing in it, put it that way.

[The Prophet]

On 16/05/2024 at 18:24, Aiston said:

 

Think people are just frustrated that we had it in our own hands and now need to bank on another team to do us a favour (while we need to equal Man United's result on Sunday now), even though Man United winning the FA Cup is highly unlikely.

 

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We should be wanting any sort of European football, bare minimum it helps Howe get more experience and to improve on how to manage the squad with European football.

 

The way people go on though you'd think it was a total choke job.

 

We've been 6th for all of a week with Man United sitting there for a decent chunk of the season.

 

Despite questionable away performances all year, we actually played relatively well on the night but were undone by sloppiness at both ends.

 

7th would still be a fair effort, all things considered and any form of Europe can only be a good thing.

[Keegans Export]

1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

 

The way people go on though you'd think it was a total choke job.

 

We've been 6th for all of a week with Man United sitting there for a decent chunk of the season.

 

Despite questionable away performances all year, we actually played relatively well on the night but were undone by sloppiness at both ends.

 

7th would still be a fair effort, all things considered and any form of Europe can only be a good thing.

 

7th would be fine, we secure that with a win at the weekend. If we slip up and allow Man Utd to overtake us, then finishing 8th and going LWWDLL (or LWWDLD) to end the season would be a disappointment. I don't think that's unreasonable.