OoOGazOoO Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Can we get Ferran Torres as part of the deal please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, duo said: We could all see Gordon was playing within himself - why then reward him with being our pen taker? Nick's pen was one of the best I've seen - ok he missed one in a knock out - but whose to say his numbers couldn't have been up there. Those goals would have helped take some pressure of him as well. Don’t agree Gordon was playing within himself. But that’s a conversation that’s been done to death, so we’ll agree to disagree. IMO the only criteria for who takes the pens, is who is the most likely to score them. From all available evidence, that would appear to be Gordon. If he leaves, and Woltemade stays, is in the team, and deemed the best available pen taker, then absolutely he should take over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Wolte didn’t even take a pen when Gordon was off the pitch v Leeds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 4 minutes ago, SteV said: Don’t agree Gordon was playing within himself. But that’s a conversation that’s been done to death, so we’ll agree to disagree. IMO the only criteria for who takes the pens, is who is the most likely to score them. From all available evidence, that would appear to be Gordon. If he leaves, and Woltemade stays, is in the team, and deemed the best available pen taker, then absolutely he should take over. Exactly this, the penalty thing makes me laugh, if he is the dedicated penalty taker for this season and hasn't missed one any are people questioning why he takes them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, duo said: Barca can't afford the £28mil for Rashford, no chance they can afford Gordon unless they include a player in the deal They can afford rashford, it's just them pleading poverty. Also rashford has a ridiculous wage as well. Edited May 5 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilovetoon8788 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Anything above north of 60m would be great. Has been crap this season. Can't be arsed about him leaving. The money we can invest in much much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 minute ago, Ilovetoon8788 said: Anything above north of 60m would be great. Has been crap this season. Can't be arsed about him leaving. The money we can invest in much much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Well, he's not been good either. Edited May 5 by Rocker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, Ilovetoon8788 said: The money we can invest in much much better I wouldn’t be so sure… Will die on the hill that we’d miss Gordon if/when he goes. Comfortably our best forward. Sure, he thinks a bit highly of himself and his face doesn’t fit with most, but even on his worst day he never hides like some of the fannies we have playing on the wing. I would take £75m, though no trust on replacing him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 We probably won't get a player who's at his level (when he's on form and interested) but we absolutely have to get a player who has a higher ceiling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 8 minutes ago, Ilovetoon8788 said: Anything above north of 60m would be great. Has been crap this season. Can't be arsed about him leaving. The money we can invest in much much better. The last two wingers we've signed have been worse than him tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 £60m doesn't move the needle much for us, especially with Everton having a % of any profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidg Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Some of the prospective fees I'm seeing blow my mind. He HAS to be worth a minimum of 80M whether you agree with the way the market works or not. Even the more surface-level attributes (England int'l, pen-heavy G/A record) should work in our favour. Have to hope that Arsenal or Liverpool come in for him because Barca are a financial mess and Bayern, who don't NEED him, are very happy to haggle for months on end. They took ages to get the Kane deal done and refused to budge in their Woltemade chase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 10 minutes ago, Sidg said: Some of the prospective fees I'm seeing blow my mind. He HAS to be worth a minimum of 80M whether you agree with the way the market works or not. Even the more surface-level attributes (England int'l, pen-heavy G/A record) should work in our favour. Have to hope that Arsenal or Liverpool come in for him because Barca are a financial mess and Bayern, who don't NEED him, are very happy to haggle for months on end. They took ages to get the Kane deal done and refused to budge in their Woltemade chase. I imagine both Liverpool and Arsenal will bid tbh. Agreed, has to be in the region of £80m imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 If he was at any of the sky 6 they would demand 100 million and get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 36 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said: I wouldn’t be so sure… Will die on the hill that we’d miss Gordon if/when he goes. Comfortably our best forward. Sure, he thinks a bit highly of himself and his face doesn’t fit with most, but even on his worst day he never hides like some of the fannies we have playing on the wing. I would take £75m, though no trust on replacing him. I agree and disagree here. I think he is worth £75m in today’s market for sure. Especially when you consider what we paid for him in a cheaper market and with nowhere near the stats to back it up at the time. I also think he is our best forward. But that isn’t really saying that much when you consider the competition. So I think we will miss him. Especially if we don’t reinvest the money properly and if we insist on playing the same way again next season. Absolutely not having that bit in bold, mind. The amount of games where he has looked uninterested or not bothered about getting at the fullback. Usually when they can match him for athleticism. Is racking up into a decent amount, I would have said? You can tell what sort of game he is going to have in the opening few minutes. That’s before the laying on the floor he does. Before eventually walking back whilst the other team are on the break. I suppose you then have the few times where people have questioned if he is actually injured or not. Athletic Bilbao I thought he was. Man City I thought he wasn’t FWIW. I think he was injured recently. But people put two and two together with the comments from Howe and the transfer speculation. Gordon on his day at his radge best is unplayable. I just think for various reasons. We don’t get to see that so much nowadays. When he was player of the season, he was a joy to watch from my POV. I just don’t see that all that often these days. But it might just be me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Of course he's worth £75m+. We paid £45m+£5m for him and he's since become an England regular, has scored goals in the Champions League and his profile has raised significantly. OK, we know the truth that he's had one actual good season and the rest has been underwhelming and padded with loads of pens and goals against Qarabag this season, but it shouldn't matter so much. The media will start touting him about for £50m this summer, you watch. It's always like this, when Isak was first linked away and Arsenal were apparently going to "test our resolve" with a £60m bid, like we'd actually sell a better than 1-in-3 striker at a loss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 I am torn on AG, I feel he may have had his time for us but he hasn't been as bad as some have made out this season. If we can get a proper centre forward firing and return AG to LW as a permanent fixture then we may see him return to his best. I just believe we have bigger issues in the squad. That being said I would not be broken hearted to see him sold for significant funds! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 2 hours ago, kingxlnc said: I resent him having pens this season tbh - even though he's good at them. Woltemade with 15 goals this season we'd all say he was a hit and a very strong foundation to build on for next year. Isak only got 10 in his first year with us (albeit injured for a few months) Eeeh I'm gonna miss this thread. His pens are fucking excellent but he's such a cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 46 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Absolutely not having that bit in bold, mind. The amount of games where he has looked uninterested or not bothered about getting at the fullback. Usually when they can match him for athleticism. Is racking up into a decent amount, I would have said? You can tell what sort of game he is going to have in the opening few minutes. That's fair. But he does do it twice as much as any of our other wingers, and he never stops the other way either. As I say his face doesn't fit - I know my mates would love to see the back of him and I totally get it. But I'd sooner get what we can for Barnes and keep Gordon if it were up to me. That being said I would take £70/75m IF we were to reinvest it wisely with a couple of young, talented players from overseas. I suppose that's the part that worries me most (the fact we will just blip the money). Once bitten and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, Minhosa said: I imagine both Liverpool and Arsenal will bid tbh. Agreed, has to be in the region of £80m imho. Definitely considering how expensive forwards are these days. He's signed a long term contract, if any team wants him they have to meet our asking price. I know what happened with Isak but we didn't have a DOF in place then who actually knew how to negotiate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 He'll probably do alright just bullying farmersliga chod but feels like there's cheaper options that can do that. Works for me though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Obviously the German league is of a lower standard but it would be a hell of a move from him and his agent if he wound up at Bayern Munich like. They're the best team in Europe (certainly top 2) at the moment. Certainly not their level but fair play if he got that move. I do think they'd try lowball us to fuck though. Given the prices wingers went for last summer including our very own Elanga, £70m should be the bottom line but I think £75/80m is doable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 8 minutes ago, The Butcher said: That was called “tapping up” back in the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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