KaKa Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Rashford has just scored 14 with 10 assists for Barcelona across all comps. Could easily see Gordon beating that without much effort. And Gordon is infinitely better when the team doesn't have the ball, which is likely why they're looking at him instead. I think a lot of teams have looked at what PSG has been able to do with someone like Dembele in place of Mbappe up top for them, and the impact that has had. Nowhere near the natural ability, but does all the running and defensive work required for the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 47 minutes ago, toon25 said: Genuinely mental he's got 2 of Europe's elite sides chasing him Especially as his finishing is woeful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 43 minutes ago, McCormick said: I think Gordon’s really underrated by some of our fans, honestly. Replacing him would be far from straightforward imo; players with that combination of pace, work rate and relentless pressing in the final third are pretty rare. Even when the numbers aren’t quite there, he still stretches teams and suits the way we play down to the ground. There’s a reason why top top clubs are high on the guy. One thing I will give him is he was the only player that turned up in the home derby. Not just the goal but he notably ran his bollocks off all game. Can't say I'll look back at his time here with much affection especially after this last month but he gives the team so much more than Barnes and will be difficult to replace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Do think people will be quite surprised at how much better he'll look in a team that actually has more attacking patterns that are drilled, with more players around him that can actually pass the ball, and where he doesn't have to come all the way back into his half all the time during build up because the midfield can't get a hold of or control a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) 5 minutes ago, KaKa said: Do think people will be quite surprised at how much better he'll look in a team that actually has more attacking patterns that are drilled, with more players around him that can actually pass the ball, and where he doesn't have to come all the way back into his half all the time during build up because the midfield can't get a hold of or control a game. I agree, but applies to nearly any player though. Especially if you add in poorer opposition. It's a weird one with Gordon, I think he's one of our best players and he will do well when he moves, but I'm still not bothered he's going. Edited May 27 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 4 minutes ago, KaKa said: Do think people will be quite surprised at how much better he'll look in a team that actually has more attacking patterns that are drilled, with more players around him that can actually pass the ball, and where he doesn't have to come all the way back into his half all the time during build up because the midfield can't get a hold of or control a game. So what you're saying is that if he plays with some of the best players in the world, at one of the most elite clubs in the world, he'll look better than he did for us, thats a shock that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoForJoy Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 I don't think his first touch is good enough for him to be a success at Barca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) Can't help but think back to Gordon's Champions League interview where he talked about his preference for European football due to the more open, less duel-based football. You can see why. While he does have limited ability, but utilised in the right system, he's a very effective player. It's not really Gordon's ability I have an issue with though, it's his mentality. He's an enormous confidence player, you usually tell whether he fancies it within the first ten minutes of a game. He's also prone to a rush of blood to the head and has let us down in some big moments. So yeah, I'm sure Gordon would go to Bayern or Barca and do very well, but he does come with some baggage. More than anything though (and I accept it might be unfair), I can't help but feel he hasn't really been all in since he was offered up to Liverpool. Given a similar pattern of behaviour of Everton, it'll be interesting to see how he gets on if he starts to face a bit of adversity at his new club. I don't want to sell, but it feels inevitable at this point. There's no point in keeping a player who fancies pastures new. Edited May 27 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Just now, 54 said: So what you're saying is that if he plays with some of the best players in the world, at one of the most elite clubs in the world, he'll look better than he did for us, thats a shock that Yeah, and they'll benefit too by better exploiting all his strengths. Lets send Murphy over there and see if he'll look better than he did for us because he's playing with the best players at one of the best clubs, or if he'll actually look worse because he'll be so out of his depth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 I think he'll do well in Europe but at the same time he's miles away from the likes of Diaz and Olise who have made the transition really successfully. Unless he has another level to go to that we haven't seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidg Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Are we getting a HERE WE GO imminently? As in this week? Romano is going quite big and this would explain why Gordon was in that weird benched-without-being-ostracised place for the last however many games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumG6 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Diving bastard as well, so a perfect fit for La Liga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Can't help but think back to Gordon's Champions League interview where he talked about his preference for European football due to the more open, less duel-based football. You can see why. While he does have limited ability, utilised in the right system, he's a very effective player. It's not really Gordon's ability I have an issue with, it's his mentality. He's an enormous confidence player, you usually tell whether he fancies it within the first ten minutes of a game. He's also prone to a rush of blood to the head and has let us down in some big moments. So yeah, I'm sure Gordon would go to Bayern or Barca and do very well, but he does come with some baggage. More than anything though (and I accept it might be unfair), I can't help but feel he hasn't really been all in since he was offered up to Liverpool. Given a similar pattern of behaviour of Everton, it'll be interesting to see how he gets on if hr starts to face a bit of adversity at his new club. I don't want to sell, but it feels inevitable at this point. There's no point in keeping a player who fancies pastures new. Yeah, we absolutely have to sell at this point because it's an impossible uphill battle for him at Newcastle now. I agree regarding mentality, but more in the sense that Gordon just doesn't have the mindset to be the main man in a team, which is ultimately the position he has increasingly found himself in at Newcastle. In a team with a number of really good players around him, where he can have a specific role and where his strengths can be exploited, he'll look a lot better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 7 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I think he'll do well in Europe but at the same time he's miles away from the likes of Diaz and Olise who have made the transition really successfully. Unless he has another level to go to that we haven't seen. Diaz looks better on the eye because of some of the mazy runs he goes on but his decision making can be poor and he can be just as inconsistent in front of goal. His numbers at Liverpool, who were a better team than Newcastle have been, were not as good as Gordon's. In that Bayern team, where a lot of other players attract a ton of attention, he has been able to thrive. Pretty sure we'll see similar with Gordon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 17 goals and 5 assists in 46 games this season but 8 penalties. 9 goals and 5 assists in 46 games without the pens isn't setting the world alight. Similar numbers for the following this season: Jaidon Anthony Kevin Schade Noah Okafor Marcus Tavernier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 6 minutes ago, JP said: 17 goals and 5 assists in 46 games this season but 8 penalties. 9 goals and 5 assists in 46 games without the pens isn't setting the world alight. Similar numbers for the following this season: Jaidon Anthony Kevin Schade Noah Okafor Marcus Tavernier Not forgetting he played a lot of minutes as CF as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Pasta nonce saying he wants to go to Barca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 minute ago, lovejoy said: Pasta nonce saying he wants to go to Barca. Only wants Barca ? Haven’t missed that term Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 I want to go to Barca too funnily enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 hour ago, McCormick said: I think Gordon’s really underrated by some of our fans, honestly. Replacing him would be far from straightforward imo; players with that combination of pace, work rate and relentless pressing in the final third are pretty rare. Even when the numbers aren’t quite there, he still stretches teams and suits the way we play down to the ground. There’s a reason why top top clubs are high on the guy. Been saying the same ever since it was rumoured we would sell. I don't mind selling simply because that's what we have to do. But I hope we don't price him too low. Whenever we go after a player it always seems to be £60m+ for some unproven no mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 75-80m according to Downie Snap their hands off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 59 minutes ago, KaKa said: Diaz looks better on the eye because of some of the mazy runs he goes on but his decision making can be poor and he can be just as inconsistent in front of goal. His numbers at Liverpool, who were a better team than Newcastle have been, were not as good as Gordon's. In that Bayern team, where a lot of other players attract a ton of attention, he has been able to thrive. Pretty sure we'll see similar with Gordon. Nobody was option 1, 2 or 3 when Mo Salah was there who Klopp had nearly everything built around. The reason Diaz looks so good at Bayern is also the fact that Olise is also a creator for others and Kane himself is too. Salah had loads of assists but he always was going for goal over passing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Hopefully we are also in direct talks for his replacement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Gordon will do well and I’m happy if he goes abroad. Thing is he wants to go and seems pretty damn obvious he has wanted to leave for a few years now. Max fee and then rebuild with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Barca will want to break it down into 500k instalments a year. I hope it provokes Bayern into doing something faster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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