Jackie Broon Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 24 minutes ago, Ben said: What's stopping us selling Almiron for £100 million ? Specifically, Premier League rules E.55-69. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 It really shouldn't be a related party transactions, but the scope of the rules are wide enough that it could be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 hours ago, duo said: A ban from CL for a decade would need to be added. Also transfer ban for 5 years. Not sure if it’s in their remit, but add a ban for them singing blue moon for 10 years and have all physical and digital coppies of Martin Tyler shouting aguero destroyed. in fact fuck the first one, just the aguero one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 21 minutes ago, The Prophet said: It really shouldn't be a related party transactions, but the scope of the rules are wide enough that it could be. How so specifically? Seems oddly discriminating, to the point of being racist, to argue that all clubs and companies from the same nationality as a club's owners are related parties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 17 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: How so specifically? Seems oddly discriminating, to the point of being racist, to argue that all clubs and companies from the same nationality as a club's owners are related parties. I don't think they would to be honest, but if they were to take a broad scope, the PL gave themselves a bit of a catch all with a party who "is otherwise than at arm’s length", which is incredibly subjective. It can include clubs who are indirectly controlled or materially influenced by the same government, public or state-funded body or by the same party. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 28 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: How so specifically? Seems oddly discriminating, to the point of being racist, to argue that all clubs and companies from the same nationality as a club's owners are related parties. KSA isn’t a free country and it doesn’t function as one. It’s a dictatorship. It wouldn’t exactly be a stretch to say that Al-Shabab would be under the influence of the govt - and regardless of the shite that the PL eventually accepted, the PIF is a govt kitty ran by the effective HoS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 FFP is such a shambolic thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Not as shambolic as all the endless fucking arguing about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 7 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: KSA isn’t a free country and it doesn’t function as one. It’s a dictatorship. It wouldn’t exactly be a stretch to say that Al-Shabab would be under the influence of the govt - and regardless of the shite that the PL eventually accepted, the PIF is a govt kitty ran by the effective HoS I'm pleased I live in the UK where our government puts its citizens needs first. I mean apart from - Increased poverty, higher prices and shrinkflation, homelessness, reduction in public services and deteriorating quality of roads, parks, libraries, the shortage in nursing and school staff, frightening levels of inequality that they don’t understand because it doesn’t affect them, increased levels of racial abuse, failure to reform the police, NHS waiting lists, wastage of public funds, reduced funding for HMRC leading to people getting away with tax avoidance, persecution of LGBT (especially trans) people, and the big one – BREXIT, which is a disaster. Harder and more expensive to go abroad now. They are doing a cracking job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 8 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: KSA isn’t a free country and it doesn’t function as one. It’s a dictatorship. It wouldn’t exactly be a stretch to say that Al-Shabab would be under the influence of the govt - and regardless of the shite that the PL eventually accepted, the PIF is a govt kitty ran by the effective HoS Al Shabab is owned by a member of the Dubai royal family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 6 hours ago, Mahoneys Tache said: Not as shambolic as all the endless fucking arguing about it. Considering it's the biggest hurdle the club is facing, I think it's valid people arguing about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 7 hours ago, maze said: FFP is such a shambolic thing. Why it works fine. City are going to sign a player owned by feeder club a that's on loan at feeder club b for a knockdown bargain £10m in the summer. All is good in FFP land Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Ben said: I'm pleased I live in the UK where our government puts its citizens needs first. I mean apart from - Increased poverty, higher prices and shrinkflation, homelessness, reduction in public services and deteriorating quality of roads, parks, libraries, the shortage in nursing and school staff, frightening levels of inequality that they don’t understand because it doesn’t affect them, increased levels of racial abuse, failure to reform the police, NHS waiting lists, wastage of public funds, reduced funding for HMRC leading to people getting away with tax avoidance, persecution of LGBT (especially trans) people, and the big one – BREXIT, which is a disaster. Harder and more expensive to go abroad now. They are doing a cracking job. Zero time for moral relativism. Anyone who seriously thinks that a country which executes people for thinking that their govt is shite is the same as one where the govt is shite but they can vote them out isn’t serious. I’m aware of all the issues in the UK. I’m a democratic socialist, I hardly agree with what has been going on. But to compare that to a brutal dictatorship is an insult to those who are oppressed by one. edit: you’d literally shit your pants if you lived in KSA. Not a single thing you’ve written about the UK govt could you have written across there without fear of arrest, potentially with execution at the end of it. Edited January 23 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 52 minutes ago, Stifler said: Al Shabab is owned by a member of the Dubai royal family. You’ve googled the wrong football club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Other than Carrasco, they’re one of the last to jump on the glamorous foreign import bus. He went for c€15m at 29 and in the last year of his contract. £20m would be fair given the extra time Miggy has on his deal. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/al-shabab-riad/startseite/verein/9840 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Apparently Mourinho has rejected an offer to manage them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: Zero time for moral relativism. Anyone who seriously thinks that a country which executes people for thinking that their govt is shite is the same as one where the govt is shite but they can vote them out isn’t serious. I’m aware of all the issues in the UK. I’m a democratic socialist, I hardly agree with what has been going on. But to compare that to a brutal dictatorship is an insult to those who are oppressed by one. edit: you’d literally shit your pants if you lived in KSA. Not a single thing you’ve written about the UK govt could you have written across there without fear of arrest, potentially with execution at the end of it. TBF we are so far down the rabbit hole of morally corrupt govenments I don't know what the fuck is best, I do know that the one in Saudi and the one I currently live under are probably not for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 6 minutes ago, Ben said: TBF we are so far down the rabbit hole of morally corrupt govenments I don't know what the fuck is best, I do know that the one in Saudi and the one I currently live under are probably not for me I’m with you on that mate - but honestly, the UK govt being morally and ethically bereft isn’t the same as a country which has pretty recently executed people by means of beheading for the ‘crime’ of witchcraft and sorcery. Cosplaying as Harry Potter is a capital punishment over there … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 27 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I’m with you on that mate - but honestly, the UK govt being morally and ethically bereft isn’t the same as a country which has pretty recently executed people by means of beheading for the ‘crime’ of witchcraft and sorcery. Cosplaying as Harry Potter is a capital punishment over there … I don't know the story behind that or how it came about, but I don't think we should praise a society that enables us to have free speech when no fucker listens. I fear we have traded that right to allow our leaders to extort us from rights we actually need Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomYam Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, Stifler said: Al Shabab is owned by a member of the Dubai royal family. With more than 30,000 members of the Saudi royal family, including 4,000 princes, I expect most institutions and large companies in SA are owned by them. Needless to say, Middle Eastern countries like SA, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain and Qatar don't have a whole lot in common with Western Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 23 minutes ago, Ben said: I don't know the story behind that or how it came about, but I don't think we should praise a society that enables us to have free speech when no fucker listens. I fear we have traded that right to allow our leaders to extort us from rights we actually need I’m not praising the UK govt, I am though saying that it is less shit than an atavistic theocratically-driven dictatorship Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Absolutely love how every thread gets derailed by people talking about FFP and loads (quite rightly) not understanding how amortisation works. If only all of us had taken up accounting as a hobby instead of football, we would be like pig in shit right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 15 minutes ago, Nobody said: Absolutely love how every thread gets derailed by people talking about FFP and loads (quite rightly) not understanding how amortisation works. If only all of us had taken up accounting as a hobby instead of football, we would be like pig in shit right now. For me it isn’t about accounting or amortisation, it’s about anti competitive rules that protect the already wealthy clubs in what they see as their entitled positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) With little movement this window, I wonder if smaller clubs who factor in selling players as part of their business model will start to agitate for change to FFP? We could soon get to a point where only a few clubs, mainly US owners, are in favour of the current rules. Think back to Ashley, he was trying to have a model where we sold players on for big profits, only problem is that he was shit at implementing the plan. Edited January 24 by macphisto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 7 minutes ago, macphisto said: With little movement this window, I wonder if smaller clubs who factor in selling players as part of their business model will start to agitate for change to FFP? We could soon get to a point where only a few clubs, mainly US owners, are in favour of the current rules. Think back to Ashley, he was trying to have a model where we sold players on for big profits, only problem is that he was shit at implementing the plan. I don’t think so, most of the let’s call them less ambitious clubs in the league don’t over stretch themselves and run the risk of being in breach. Remember FFP is beneficial for most of the league, the only ones who dislike are the upstarts. Edited January 24 by r0cafella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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