Abacus Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Thinking of inventing a new game next season of Fantasy Legal and Accountancy Football League. It ditches all the boring football bits and really focuses on the minutiae of financial results and their legal interpretation across both domestic and European competitions. Who's in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Cracking look for the league to have almost a third of it being possibly deducted points Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 11 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Would this being voted through next week affect anything for the June deadline ? Why don't we just sell a fringe player to Villa and they sell us one back to the same value on June 30th, for £30m. We're not related parties, so it's fine. We both take all the sales proceeds this year, and only each take one days worth of the amortisation in the period on the player neither of us wants, allowing us both to meet the FFP limit, with no need for tedious votes. See? My new game is really going to catch on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 If it means we have to sell Bruno then just take the points hit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 10 minutes ago, gbandit said: The people governing the game have successfully managed to make the off pitch stuff impact the on pitch stuff rather than the other way round Aye, it's getting absolutely ridiculous now. Sure, money and finances has been important in football for as long as I've been a fan at least, but nowadays to be a clued up fan we need to be fucking experts in accounting and understanding of how billion pound companies operate. This isnt sustainable, people will start losing interested when you cant even look at a table without thinking about who has or might get the next arbitrary point deduction. Really miss the days of just being able to judge a transfer in terms of a) is the player any good and then b) is he better than similarly priced players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 10 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Eh? Arsenal spurs Liverpool Brighton and a few others are absolutely loving life. For now. Amazing how this stuff comes around. Just wait until Liverpool starting making transfer errors in under a new manager and then find themselves needing more cash flow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Just now, STM said: For now. Amazing how this stuff comes around. Just wait until Liverpool starting making transfer errors in under a new manager and then find themselves needing more cash flow. The rule is changing to squad cost ratio soon though, which is even better for the established big clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 9 minutes ago, Abacus said: Thinking of inventing a new game next season of Fantasy Legal and Accountancy Football League. It ditches all the boring football bits and really focuses on the minutiae of financial results and their legal interpretation across both domestic and European competitions. Who's in? N de Marco FWD 13.5m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 5 hours ago, healthyaddiction said: Not in the Premier League are they. Arh yeh, different sport init. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 21 minutes ago, Abacus said: Not sure how we'd have gotten into that position. Maybe banking on a higher league finish? That's if it's even true. Whatever, you'd think it can't be over by much. So either sell a fringe player or two, or challenge the ruling endlessly, dispute any points deduction to get it reduced, which surely won't be that much in the first place, and then start on minus a couple of points along with a third of the league, rather than sell anyone we don't want to. Failing that, hope Man City win their case, and announce a bumper shoelace sponsor on June 30. I’d assume any projected missed income would be not having Europe post Christmas. Like Europa and QFs, that would’ve been like £5m if that? Easily covered by one of the fringe players moving on like Almiron / Wilson /Targett etc. in that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 17 minutes ago, Abacus said: Thinking of inventing a new game next season of Fantasy Legal and Accountancy Football League. It ditches all the boring football bits and really focuses on the minutiae of financial results and their legal interpretation across both domestic and European competitions. Who's in? You got a discount code for this? Or if it’s not at that stage I’d be happy to drop a five figure sum into a kickstarter / crowdfunder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 We have consitently been saying since the new owners have arrived, that we will comply with FFP, so bar a total fuck up somewhere in the accounting process, I do not believe we will have gone over the limit. I am sure they based all the scenario's on worst case outcomes this season - at least you would hope they had. Forest only got 4 points for c.£30M over and we cannot be that bad. So if we have surely only a couple of points to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 minute ago, Dan Gleebals said: We have consitently been saying since the new owners have arrived, that we will comply with FFP, so bar a total fuck up somewhere in the accounting process, I do not believe we will have gone over the limit. I am sure they based all the scenario's on worst case outcomes this season - at least you would hope they had. Forest only got 4 points for c.£30M over and we cannot be that bad. So if we have surely only a couple of points to worry about. Aye but that was just Forest, not dirty filthy Newcastle that must be stopped, to the point where new rules are introduced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Villa in the top 4 and we're in a title race. Us on the top 4 last season. Now we both need to sell. PSR working exactly as intended. Absolute bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Just now, Doctor Zaius said: Villa in the top 4 and we're in a title race. Us on the top 4 last season. Now we both need to sell. PSR working exactly as intended. Absolute bollocks. Yup it’s a perfect demonstration of how FFP is actually work. Protects club? No look at Everton. creates an even playing field? No if you compare historic spend since the start of the PL era both ourselves and Villa spending would pale in comparison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 If we do need to sell, I wonder how much we need to raise. It can’t be much as other than Bruno and Isak we don’t really have anyone who will get us good money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: If we do need to sell, I wonder how much we need to raise. It can’t be much as other than Bruno and Isak we don’t really have anyone who will get us good money. If this is true(have many doubts) then theres absolutely no chance we would be talking about paying off Haydens i thinks contract as that would cost us £1m+ at least. Everything the clubs been doing the last year or so suggests we arent over the limit Do you still give people who are out of contract a loyalty payoff? Remember Owen and Smith getting a canny earner, if so we could have saved a few quid by giving those 5 a months contract til the new season Edited June 6 by Fezzle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 33 minutes ago, Abacus said: Thinking of inventing a new game next season of Fantasy Legal and Accountancy Football League. It ditches all the boring football bits and really focuses on the minutiae of financial results and their legal interpretation across both domestic and European competitions. Who's in? The TV adaptation would be an inversion of the original and have statto's hosting it, in the audience and watching and some boring weirdo interjecting with football related banter, jokes and updates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: If we do need to sell, I wonder how much we need to raise. It can’t be much as other than Bruno and Isak we don’t really have anyone who will get us good money. If our situation is so dire that we need to sell one of our jewels then our ownership is totally incompetent. Edited June 6 by r0cafella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Thought the rumoured number was like 6 odd million, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 43 minutes ago, STM said: There is no way this situation will continue.... I don't think any fucker is happy with it. Quite right too. It’s a fucking shambles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 4 minutes ago, r0cafella said: If our situation is so dire that we need to sell one of our jewels are ownership is totally incompetent. I honestly don’t believe we “need” to sell. Doesn’t mean we won’t. No Crown Jewels mind. Suppose accounts will eventually confirm this one way or other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Just now, PauloGeordio said: I honestly don’t believe we “need” to sell. Doesn’t mean we won’t. No Crown Jewels mind. Suppose accounts will eventually confirm this one way or other. The accounts don’t reveal FFP calculations. And yes, my IF is doing a lot of heavy lifting intentionally so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Just now, PauloGeordio said: I honestly don’t believe we “need” to sell. Doesn’t mean we won’t. No Crown Jewels mind. Suppose accounts will eventually confirm this one way or other. We will be docked points well before our accounts become public if Sky already know then you can bet the league will want it done asap. You cant possibly have 6/7 teams getting deductions after the accounts surface around April, would be a farcical end to the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 3 minutes ago, Fezzle said: We will be docked points well before our accounts become public if Sky already know then you can bet the league will want it done asap. You cant possibly have 6/7 teams getting deductions after the accounts surface around April, would be a farcical end to the season Hopefully the are just speculating. Edging their bets that those teams may sell. Not sure at what point or how soon it would have to be confirmed if there was a breach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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