DahnSahf Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 The least we should demand is a name change. A system whereby some clubs are specifically barred from spending as much on players as others in the same competition is anything but fair. Calling it FFP is like 'People's Democratic Republic'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 So are Everton still not in a relegation battle then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: So are Everton still not in a relegation battle then. They have 2 weeks to lodge an appeal/defence. A committee will look at the evidence, look at their defence, and determine if they are guilty and hand out the punishment no later than 12 weeks from now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Sky have just put the time line up, the final decision is made 6 days after the season ends Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaksbigrightfoot Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, Ben said: Sky have just put the time line up, the final decision is made 6 days after the season ends This is all such a big mess. Meanwhile Man City keep hovering up europes talent. Chelsea keep buying and then loaning players out and selling them for a profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMal Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) This is getting worse and worse for the Premier league and the Cartel clubs, there is going to have to be some kind of independent review of FFP as they are all just looking more corrupt by the day. The more I look at it the more our guys have played a blinder by rigidly sticking to the rules, that in itself has got all the talk about the richest club in the world that the media stirred up and the fact we can't spend is becoming more and more in focus for everyone and when historic clubs like Forrest and Everton are suffering, yes their own fault for spending poorly, it has got to be better for everyone. Bring on the independent regulators. Edited January 15 by MagMal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaksbigrightfoot Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, MagMal said: This is getting worse and worse for the Premier league and the Cartel clubs, there is going to have to be some kind of independent review of FFP as they are all just looking more corrupt by the day. The more I look at it the more our guys have played a blinder by rigidly sticking to the rules, that in itself has got all the talk about the richest club in the world that the media stirred up and the fact we can spend is becoming more and more in focus for everyone and when historic clubs like Forrest and Everton are suffering, yes their own fault for spending poorly, it has got to be better for everyone. Bring on the independent regulators. There has to be a better way for FFP to work which isn’t restrictive but still protects the club. Owners should be allowed to put in as much money as they like and it count towards FFP with the caveat that they won’t take that money back out directly. Obviously I’m not biased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Other 14 teams should refuse to play the remainder of the season or until citeh are dealt with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 11 minutes ago, Ben said: Sky have just put the time line up, the final decision is made 6 days after the season ends Sky have it wrong. The decision will be made at the beginning of April. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Stifler said: Sky have it wrong. The decision will be made at the beginning of April. But that can be appealed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bintang Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 If they appeal and lose I assume the points deduction would still be applied to this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) I know it's EFL not PL but the shit going down at Reading is the type of scenario FFP and Ownership Tests should be protecting clubs against isn't it ? Not a vehicle to prevent clubs with massive resources from spending money on players Reading have owner who'd already bankrupted 2 football clubs but was still allowed to buy Reading. They've been docked 16 points in 2 years for financial issues and they're now on the verge of being liquidated too So the EFL are now releasing statements asking him to invest or sell It's the very definition of closing stable door after horse has bolted Edited January 15 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMal Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Isaksbigrightfoot said: There has to be a better way for FFP to work which isn’t restrictive but still protects the club. Owners should be allowed to put in as much money as they like and it count towards FFP with the caveat that they won’t take that money back out directly. Obviously I’m not biased. I think someone suggested a squad salary cap the other day which I think would be a good idea, followed by limits on squad numbers and players on loan, then in theory you are not capping one person's wages and if everyone has the same size squad people can't abuse things and come up with ideas like 5 subs etc. Transfer fees would still be stupid but at least that would give smaller clubs more opportunity to invest windfall fees as they would know that clubs of their similar size had the same player structure as them and the larger clubs would have to move players on at more reasonable fees, it would encourage more local player development. Edited January 15 by MagMal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Praying this is the start of the ball rolling to abolish FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Farcical. Everton are guilty of wrongdoing, but the rules are completely unfit for purpose. Farcical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 11 minutes ago, Jordan said: Praying this is the start of the ball rolling to abolish FFP. And then we do become the richest club in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Farcical. Everton are guilty of wrongdoing, but the rules are completely unfit for purpose. Farcical. I can't help but laugh at when clubs call out "the Premier League" for various things. The clubs are the Premier League. So the rules might not be fit for purpose, but Everton most likely nodded them through and now want to kick up when they're in the dock. Idiots. Edited January 15 by Kilcline Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaksbigrightfoot Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 26 minutes ago, MagMal said: I think someone suggested a squad salary cap the other day which I think would be a good idea, followed by limits on squad numbers and players on loan, then in theory you are not capping one person's wages and if everyone has the same size squad people can't abuse things and come up with ideas like 5 subs etc. Transfer fees would still be stupid but at least that would give smaller clubs more opportunity to invest windfall fees as they would know that clubs of their similar size had the same player structure as them and the larger clubs would have to move players on at more reasonable fees, it would encourage more local player development. Yes squad salary caps could be introduced but then the best teams would structure pay deals in all sorts of ways. Scrap FFP. Just ensure that teams can’t spend beyond their means. Remove the restrictions of market value commercial deals. If people want to spunk money like Everton let them do it. The money flows through the pyramid anyways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Honestly sick of hearing about FFP and VAR, that’s all football is about now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaksbigrightfoot Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 31 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: I know it's EFL not PL but the shit going down at Reading is the type of scenario FFP and Ownership Tests should be protecting clubs against isn't it ? Not a vehicle to prevent clubs with massive resources from spending money on players Reading have owner who'd already bankrupted 2 football clubs but was still allowed to buy Reading. They've been docked 16 points in 2 years for financial issues and they're now on the verge of being liquidated too So the EFL are now releasing statements asking him to invest or sell It's the very definition of closing stable door after horse has bolted FFP wasn’t designed for that though. For the good of football clubs. It was designed to protect the product and the status quo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, PCW1983 said: Honestly sick of hearing about FFP and VAR, that’s all football is about now. Because arguably both are impacting the game negatively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maineblue Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 51 minutes ago, Isaksbigrightfoot said: This is all such a big mess. Meanwhile Man City keep hovering up europes talent. Chelsea keep buying and then loaning players out and selling them for a profit. City keep hoovering up Europe’s talent, please explain who that talent is, names please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 At least Man City keep buying well. Chelsea are a shambles and still haven’t really faced any long-term impact of being a financial and operational mess despite having everything weighted in their favour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 10 minutes ago, Maineblue said: City keep hoovering up Europe’s talent, please explain who that talent is, names please ? Oscar Bobb from the area like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Oscar Bobb from the area like I'm sure that's a race horse you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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