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58 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

If PSR was designed to be fair, and truly create a sustainable, competitive league, they'd have capped the top 6 in terms of spending until the rest of the league had chance to catch up in terms of commercial revenue. But any talk of imposing limitations on the red cartel and pals is laughable. The PL are shit scared they'll lose them to some breakaway league where their financial status is never threatened.

 

Unfortunately, we'll keep seeing new rules brought in to protect them, and the powers that be will keep moving the goalposts to keep their golden boys happy. It's a closed shop 

 

Then a bloc of 7 clubs needs to be formed, us, City, Villa, Forest, LCFC, Everton and another to prevent anymore restrictive rules being voted in.

 

 

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1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said:

Because they aren’t allowed to with the restrictions? The money they have is currently irrelevant as we aren’t allowed to spend it.

 

Yes but I still believe they're going to attempt to do whatever they can within the rules. There's no evidence to suggest they're not wanting to invest significantly into NUFC.

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8 hours ago, Zero said:

Yes but at also depends on how much PIF is genuinely willing to invest

 

If they associate our success with themselves they'll want to win stuff. My view is if they are allowed to build a successful team on the pitch, then they'll be happy to invest on infrastructure and the rest of it. I don't think they'll do that to any significant extent if they think they will be blocked from building a winning side.

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44 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

If they associate our success with themselves they'll want to win stuff. My view is if they are allowed to build a successful team on the pitch, then they'll be happy to invest on infrastructure and the rest of it. I don't think they'll do that to any significant extent if they think they will be blocked from building a winning side.

Currently catch 22 then. We may need the stadium to allow us to reap the revenue and then invest significantly in the team. City’s legal outcome may or may not influence this.

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Just now, PauloGeordio said:

Currently catch 22 then. We may need the stadium to allow us to reap the revenue and then invest significantly in the team. City’s legal outcome may or may not influence this.

 

It is. The only way we can compete to match wages and transfer fees of the cartel clubs is for PIF to be allowed to invest that money with no constraints. Even a new stadium won't give us the income revenues the elite clubs generate worldwide. The only way we get that sort of pull is with a winning team. Being allowed to pump money into the squad is crucial for this project IMO. It unlocks everything else, and the PL know it, that's why they are trying to prevent it on behalf of the cartel.

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10 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

It is. The only way we can compete to match wages and transfer fees of the cartel clubs is for PIF to be allowed to invest that money with no constraints. Even a new stadium won't give us the income revenues the elite clubs generate worldwide. The only way we get that sort of pull is with a winning team. Being allowed to pump money into the squad is crucial for this project IMO. It unlocks everything else, and the PL know it, that's why they are trying to prevent it on behalf of the cartel.

Agreed. So frustrating. Hopefully a breakthrough with the City case that gives us some room for more revenue, and some news about the stadium plans would do well to put some doubts to bed and confirm the belief that our overlords see us as a genuine long term project.

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Very interesting 10 minute segment between the former City financial expert Stefan Borston and Talksport. Particularly Interesting at the 5:35 mark when he's asked if the APT case is more important than the 115 charges case for City (So obvious its not pretty stupid question) and Borston says no its not important for City but could be pretty important for Newcastle? 

 

Anyway they reckon a decision on the City APT case could be as soon as today so fingers crossed for City in that one

 

 

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1 hour ago, Pokerprince2004 said:

Very interesting 10 minute segment between the former City financial expert Stefan Borston and Talksport. Particularly Interesting at the 5:35 mark when he's asked if the APT case is more important than the 115 charges case for City (So obvious its not pretty stupid question) and Borston says no its not important for City but could be pretty important for Newcastle? 

 

Anyway they reckon a decision on the City APT case could be as soon as today so fingers crossed for City in that one

 

 

 

No doubt it will be either delay or bad news

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13 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said:

Change the rules then.

PSR really is a joke - a club breaks the rules then the other PL clubs have to pay the legal costs

 

 

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2 hours ago, timeEd32 said:

That’s only £11m each for Liverpool, Man United, Spurs, and Arsenal. They can afford it.

 

 

 

Well worth the protection money for them. Tough break on those other clubs though.....and the inventors off FFP/PSR rest very happily at all that.

 

 

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Just now, Jonas said:

Well worth the protection for them and its just a hoot into the bargain that the other clubs have to pay in too.

 

Imagine being Ipswich though. Welcome to the Premier League, you'll get a couple million less due to our legal fees.

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The amusing thing about this is the clubs who are against these rules will also be picking up the tab as it will just be deducted from the “pot” :lol:

 

Hopefully this will give them all food for thought. 

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1 minute ago, timeEd32 said:

 

Imagine being Ipswich though. Welcome to the Premier League, you'll get a couple million less due to our legal fees.

It’s such an impeccable racket. I was thinking spot forest and how they got done, it’s really bizarre promoted clubs have less FFP leeway when promoted, how to be anything but a yo-yo club in such situations? The incumbent advantage is monumental and it’s why most of the clubs love these rules you are basically protected from competition weather your a cartel club or an established mid table club. 

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