Financial Fair Play / Profit & Sustainability

[The College Dropout]

13 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It could happen with the right commercial strategy and targeted investment.  To date we’ve came up well short on those fronts.

 

Need to:

 

- build a new ground (not restricted by PSR)

- build a new training ground and academy with elite coaches (not restricted by PSR) 

- get some sponsors in (ground, academy, training ground) - can be limited by PSR but so far we’ve done nowt

- get more commercial partners in (same as above)

 

It’s hard to say that we’re trying to be all we can be when we haven’t even maximised within the current limitations.   At present our commercial revenue will flatline this season. 

This 

 

The first 2 take time.  The stadium and training ground I think we are moving too slow.  Academy it’s hard to say.

 

The rest - hard agree. 
 

I definitely feel progress away from transfers and such has been slow. And it’s slow at best, incompetent at worst. 

[KetsbaiaIsBald]

 

[Ben]

Champion, lets just pay the fine then

[Erikse]

11 hours ago, Froggy said:

 

Got an email from our supporters trust tonight that price increases are being applied effective immediately on all available tickets (i.e. not season tickets). Increasing to £66 a ticket, and that's applicable to kids and OAP as well. £132 for a parent and child to go and see a game.

 

No consultation with fans, only the message that it's urgently needed due to profitability and sustainability rules. 

 

There's a big pushback expected on it. 

 

 

 

 

This will probably have the effect of replacing more locals with tourists? Potensially hurting the atmosphere.

[TRon]

59 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Don’t think this is true. 
 

There’s nothing stopping us outspending them on academy and infrastructure. That’s outside the remit of PSR. Same thing with women’s football. 
 

Our wages and team cost is 7/8 - swapping positions with Villa. That’s par for me. Which is why I never understood trying to sign Guehi. 

 

 

 

 

That's more long term, I was thinking immediate future, i.e., this season and next.

[The College Dropout]

49 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said:

 

They threw Milan out of the UEFA Cup for less. 
 

it’s going to be easy to take UEFA to court. 
 

They would 100% try to ban us.  

[Erikse]

54 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said:

 

 

The fairness of the financial play is through the roof.

[TRon]

1 hour ago, Erikse said:

 

The fairness of the financial play is through the roof.

 

Tbf it could also stand for Financial Foul Play which would still work.

[Unbelievable]

5 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It could happen with the right commercial strategy and targeted investment.  To date we’ve came up well short on those fronts.

 

Need to:

 

- build a new ground (not restricted by PSR)

- build a new training ground and academy with elite coaches (not restricted by PSR) 

- get some sponsors in (ground, academy, training ground) - can be limited by PSR but so far we’ve done nowt

- get more commercial partners in (same as above)

 

It’s hard to say that we’re trying to be all we can be when we haven’t even maximised within the current limitations.   At present our commercial revenue will flatline this season. 

 

Adidas..?

[Wolfcastle]

Whatever we do commercially the sides already ahead of us can do. We'll close the gap a bit, they'll make it as-you-were with a season ticket increase or something. They're not going to just stand still and there's a limit to what clubs outside the 6 can do given they'll invariably not be challenging.

Investment is/was the only way. Nobody has got up there any other way since the the 80s/commercialisation of the game

[SUPERTOON]

 

[Keegans Export]

I could be wrong but I think that was suggested when the case started, partly due to the complexity of the case but also on the assumption that whichever party loses will appeal the decision.

[Andy84]

31 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

So dull 

[Ben]

1 minute ago, Andy84 said:

So dull 

 

Pep will have gone through 4 scratching posts by then 

[Joe1984]

Just now, Ben said:

 

Pep will have gone through 4 scratching posts by then 

Pep will have gone by then...

[duo]

48 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

So we know why Pep signed an extension - utter shambles

[TRon]

1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

 

 

I'd be surprised if it's settled even then tbh. They can just keep rewriting the rules and kick off a new case which will take 2 years. Worth every £multi-million of the cartel cashpot.

[Ben]

So Man Utd are fucked right ? They are neither profitable or sustainable. 

[r0cafella]

19 minutes ago, Ben said:

So Man Utd are fucked right ? They are neither profitable or sustainable. 

They are fine. 

[mattypnufc]

2 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

They are fine. 

They’d be fine even if they weren’t. The PL can’t be having them get into bother can they? 

[r0cafella]

5 minutes ago, mattypnufc said:

They’d be fine even if they weren’t. The PL can’t be having them get into bother can they? 

I'm with you, if they were over and they got away with it on the basis of exemptions which were claimed at a level much higher than anyone else's or not used by anyone else it's fishy to say the least. 

 

Quite ironic that the psr cheerleaders that they are against anchoring and allowed to have larger COVID claims than everyone else. 

[Ben]

Clubs scrambling around for cash 

[andycap]

Basically ffp is about revenues keep the established clubs at the top. 

[RodneyCisse]

Don’t Man U annoying make 700m+ in revenue though?

[beardsleymagic]

That as may be, but we're not allowed to grow ours under the rules made up for man u and their mates. So that argument is isn't really a fair one. (That's a dig at the rules not you Rod )