Financial Fair Play / Profit & Sustainability

[Ben]

2 hours ago, James said:

I’m surprised at this stage a player hasn’t taken the PL to court over FFP. Their career and future earnings are being directly impacted. Probably countless examples in the PL but I can just cite various at NUFC:

 

Isak - he is one of the worlds best strikers and his club would be willing to and can afford a new contract, but FFP says no, forcing him to lose earnings or uproot his life to move elsewhere.

 

Bruno - Clubs have not been able to activate his £100m clause due to FFP.

 

Targett - Lost his place at NUFC due to injury. Would move to further his career and future earnings but due to FFP no club will take on his salary.

 

Miley - Unable to secure a loan move to aid his development as club can’t source alternative player due to FFP.

 

Add to that there are probably Championship players that PL clubs are no longer taking a punt on due to FFP. I don’t think anyone would have signed Jacob Murphy if FFP was a thing back then.

 

 

 

That's a fuckin cracking argument, I bet there must be loads of players that have had careers cut short because clubs are not allowed to spend freely.

[PauloGeordio]

2 hours ago, James said:

I’m surprised at this stage a player hasn’t taken the PL to court over FFP. Their career and future earnings are being directly impacted. Probably countless examples in the PL but I can just cite various at NUFC:

 

Isak - he is one of the worlds best strikers and his club would be willing to and can afford a new contract, but FFP says no, forcing him to lose earnings or uproot his life to move elsewhere.

 

Bruno - Clubs have not been able to activate his £100m clause due to FFP.

 

Targett - Lost his place at NUFC due to injury. Would move to further his career and future earnings but due to FFP no club will take on his salary.

 

Miley - Unable to secure a loan move to aid his development as club can’t source alternative player due to FFP.

 

Add to that there are probably Championship players that PL clubs are no longer taking a punt on due to FFP. I don’t think anyone would have signed Jacob Murphy if FFP was a thing back then.

 

 

Get on the blower to De Marco! 

[Ben]

2 hours ago, James said:

I’m surprised at this stage a player hasn’t taken the PL to court over FFP. Their career and future earnings are being directly impacted. Probably countless examples in the PL but I can just cite various at NUFC:

 

Isak - he is one of the worlds best strikers and his club would be willing to and can afford a new contract, but FFP says no, forcing him to lose earnings or uproot his life to move elsewhere.

 

Bruno - Clubs have not been able to activate his £100m clause due to FFP.

 

Targett - Lost his place at NUFC due to injury. Would move to further his career and future earnings but due to FFP no club will take on his salary.

 

Miley - Unable to secure a loan move to aid his development as club can’t source alternative player due to FFP.

 

Add to that there are probably Championship players that PL clubs are no longer taking a punt on due to FFP. I don’t think anyone would have signed Jacob Murphy if FFP was a thing back then.

 

 

 

Someone needs to tweet that to Kieran Maguire

[FloydianMag]

 

[mouldy_uk]

Good to see Nick ‘The Loaf’ De Marco still cracking heads for us 

 

[PauloGeordio]

2 hours ago, mouldy_uk said:

Good to see Nick ‘The Loaf’ De Marco still cracking heads for us 

 

 

 

Halcyon daze! 

[PauloGeordio]

 

[Keegans Export]

21 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

 

 

Halcyon daze! 

It's funny, even though he's said publicly that it had nothing to do with the takeover, I don't believe him 

[PauloGeordio]

7 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

It's funny, even though he's said publicly that it had nothing to do with the takeover, I don't believe him 

Me neither Crafty bugger that Nick! 

[SteV]

[Cf]

1 hour ago, SteV said:

 

Utterly ridiculous for a competition no-one even watches. 

[mighty__mag]

https://talksport.com/football/3332335/newcastle-chelsea-manchester-city-transfers-club-world-cup/

 

Nice one PIF

[tarie4]

13 hours ago, Cf said:

 

Utterly ridiculous for a competition no-one even watches. 

That "nobody watches" thing always strikes me as weird. Maybe it's not a big deal in Europe, but it's huge in Africa, Asia, and other places, and people are definitely watching.

The club world cup goes far beyond Europe, they do not target Europe-only audience. 

For now Europe's acting all high and mighty. But with the money being thrown around, I bet the next few tournaments will be huge here, just like they are elsewhere.

 

It'll be as big as the Champions League before long, I reckon. The money's too good for clubs to ignore. I personally hope We qualify for the next one. 

Hate or love it, it was always going to be a huge success. 

 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by tarie4

[madras]

42 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

That "nobody watches" thing always strikes me as weird. Maybe it's not a big deal in Europe, but it's huge in Africa, Asia, and other places, and people are definitely watching.

The club world cup goes far beyond Europe, they do not target Europe-only audience. 

For now Europe's acting all high and mighty. But with the money being thrown around, I bet the next few tournaments will be huge here, just like they are elsewhere.

 

It'll be as big as the Champions League before long, I reckon. The money's too good for clubs to ignore. I personally hope We qualify for the next one. 

Hate or love it, it was always going to be a huge success. 

 

 

 

Can't see how we'd qualify for the next one. It's designed that way. Legacies only.

[Vedder]

51 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

That "nobody watches" thing always strikes me as weird. Maybe it's not a big deal in Europe, but it's huge in Africa, Asia, and other places, and people are definitely watching.

The club world cup goes far beyond Europe, they do not target Europe-only audience. 

For now Europe's acting all high and mighty. But with the money being thrown around, I bet the next few tournaments will be huge here, just like they are elsewhere.

 

It'll be as big as the Champions League before long, I reckon. The money's too good for clubs to ignore. I personally hope We qualify for the next one. 

Hate or love it, it was always going to be a huge success. 

 

 

 

The prize money should reflect that’s it’s only big in Africa and Asia. People only care because of the money involved and how it will help with PSR. Basically, it’s all that is wrong with modern football. 

[Stifler]

5 hours ago, madras said:

Can't see how we'd qualify for the next one. It's designed that way. Legacies only.

Something like 8 European teams qualify for it, with them on about expanding it even further. The 4 Champions League winners, plus the best coefficient teams.

Currently there is a limit of 2 teams from each nation, but if they do expand it, then that may get scrapped. So in the next 3 years we just have to get our European Coefficient up, and it doesn’t matter if it’s via the Champions League or not.

It will take 3 excellent runs in Europe, but it’s doable, especially if we manage to strengthen our squad.

[tarie4]

5 hours ago, Vedder said:

The prize money should reflect that’s it’s only big in Africa and Asia. People only care because of the money involved and how it will help with PSR. Basically, it’s all that is wrong with modern football. 

Players and agents are after more money, and clubs need more to pay them, which is why the Super League idea came about.

 

The EPL is the biggest league in the world, right? 'Cause of Asia, Africa, and all that. That's why the TV deals are so huge, and the Spanish and Italian leagues are jealous. The EPL is kinda  the super league lte as it were.

 

So, it's either this, or the Super League, basically. At least this benefits club's from Africa and all. The super league wouldn't.

[astraguy]

When do villa need to sell by? they don't seem to be rushing or any other clubs like last season @brummie

[Nucasol]

7 minutes ago, astraguy said:

When do villa need to sell by? they don't seem to be rushing or any other clubs like last season @brummie

They’re doing a Chelsea and selling the women’s team to themselves. Don’t hate the player, hate the game and all that.

[astraguy]

1 hour ago, Nucasol said:

They’re doing a Chelsea and selling the women’s team to themselves. Don’t hate the player, hate the game and all that.

But surely they have to do that before a said deadline?

[madras]

3 hours ago, Stifler said:

Something like 8 European teams qualify for it, with them on about expanding it even further. The 4 Champions League winners, plus the best coefficient teams.

Currently there is a limit of 2 teams from each nation, but if they do expand it, then that may get scrapped. So in the next 3 years we just have to get our European Coefficient up, and it doesn’t matter if it’s via the Champions League or not.

It will take 3 excellent runs in Europe, but it’s doable, especially if we manage to strengthen our squad.

"On about", "but if","that may".

 

Do you not think there's a reason its designed the way it is, like the champions league ? To maintain the status quo and stop the formation of a breakaway "super league".

[Nucasol]

38 minutes ago, astraguy said:

But surely they have to do that before a said deadline?

Like Chelsea did with their hotel or women’s team? It’s moving things between different arms of a holding company; not like doing a deal with N arm’s length third party.

[Mikky]

44 minutes ago, astraguy said:

But surely they have to do that before a said deadline?

There’s talk that they may have already sold all or part stake of the women’s team to themselves - but we won’t know until a few weeks time 

 

I think we should sell Strawberry Place to ourselves for 100m

[astraguy]

15 minutes ago, Mikky said:

There’s talk that they may have already sold all or part stake of the women’s team to themselves - but we won’t know until a few weeks time 

 

I think we should sell Strawberry Place to ourselves for 100m

Just seen this on villa talk,they have to Tuesday

 

 

[madras]

17 minutes ago, astraguy said:

Just seen this on villa talk,they have to Tuesday

 

 

Can someone explain ? Is that like me deciding how much to transfer from one account to the other, they are both my accounts but I'm being performative about it ?

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by madras